*****First cycle ******

[Ajack3dyounG]

So I understand I am young, turning 19 in a few months. I have reached my max height due to genetics and heavy lifting, 5'7. And don't give me the test bullshit.
I started at 125 a year ago, currently 169
Weeks 1-8 test prop
Weeks 2-6 dbol
Pct tomoxifen
If you want to offer advice or a totally different way to cycle, ways to miniminze gyno without hcg I'm all ears, can never stop learning about this shit. Ill be taking vitamin b6 an b50 complex aswell as d-panothenic acid, and zma, milk thistle extract.
Solid workout, 8100 calorie intake, I don't want too much bloating tho I know it will come, and anyways to minimize test atrophy would be nice to know more

Cheers mates

[frank13]

omg...

[Ajack3dyounG]

Meaning?

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

8100 Calories, smart move, you shouldn't have to much bloating from that

Gyno has nothing to do with HCG ... HCG is for testicular atrophy.

Lets be realistic...You're going to get no assistance here, you're putting yourself in danger with what seems to be like no clue on what you are doing.

If you're not open minded to the dangers of AAS usage at your age then you're wasting your time with this thread .

[austinite]

So I understand I am young, turning 19 in a few months. I have reached my max height due to genetics and heavy lifting, 5'7. And don't give me the test bullshit.
I started at 125 a year ago, currently 169
Weeks 1-8 test prop
Weeks 2-6 dbol
Pct tomoxifen
If you want to offer advice or a totally different way to cycle, ways to miniminze gyno without hcg I'm all ears, can never stop learning about this shit. Ill be taking vitamin b6 an b50 complex aswell as d-panothenic acid, and zma, milk thistle extract.
Solid workout, 8100 calorie intake, I don't want too much bloating tho I know it will come, and anyways to minimize test atrophy would be nice to know more

Cheers mates

Can you please list a typical days eatings?

[frank13]

So I understand I am young, turning 19 in a few months.to young pointless I have reached my max height due to genetics and heavy lifting, 5'7. And don't give me the test bullshit.
I started at 125 a year ago, currently 169 to small
Weeks 1-8 test prop not for first cycle
Weeks 2-6 dbol not for first cycle
Pct tomoxifen not a proper pct no clomid no hcg no ai
If you want to offer advice or a totally different way to cycle, ways to miniminze gyno without hcg I'm all ears, can never stop learning about this shit. Ill be taking vitamin b6 an b50 complex aswell as d-panothenic acid, and zma, milk thistle extract.
Solid workout,are u sure 8100 calorie intake,8100 i would like to see what u plan on eating I don't want too much bloating tho I know it will come, and anyways to minimize test atrophy would be nice to know more

Cheers mates

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[Ajack3dyounG]

Sorry 6100* and yes I'm aware of the effects,

[austinite]

Sorry 6100* and yes I'm aware of the effects,

ok. List what you eat in a day, Ajack.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

ok. List what you eat in a day, Ajack.

He cut 2k cals out of his diet, cutting season

[austinite]

crazy TDEE

[tdoe11]

There is absolutely no reason someone at 170lbs needs 6100 cals a day. I'm 6'1 225 and I struggle to hit 4000 a day eating clean. I am steadily gaining.

[austinite]

There is absolutely no reason someone at 170lbs needs 6100 cals a day. I'm 6'1 225 and I struggle to hit 4000 a day eating clean. I am steadily gaining.

He's not eating that much

[frank13]

i eat 20,000 real clean

[MuscleInk]

So I understand I am young, turning 19 in a few months. I have reached my max height due to genetics and heavy lifting, 5'7. And don't give me the test bullshit.
I started at 125 a year ago, currently 169
Weeks 1-8 test prop
Weeks 2-6 dbol
Pct tomoxifen
If you want to offer advice or a totally different way to cycle, ways to miniminze gyno without hcg I'm all ears, can never stop learning about this shit. Ill be taking vitamin b6 an b50 complex aswell as d-panothenic acid, and zma, milk thistle extract.
Solid workout, 8100 calorie intake, I don't want too much bloating tho I know it will come, and anyways to minimize test atrophy would be nice to know more

Cheers mates

Reaching your maximum height doesn't mean you've stopped growing with respect to muscle gains. If you added 44lbs naturally, why try to fix what isn't broken. It's only been one year! Keep eating and training and you'll see plenty of natural gains without the need to shut down your own test production.

I see no valid reasons to shut yourself down now when you are gaining well on your own.

Muscle Ink - Sent from my iPhone

[tdoe11]

He's not eating that much

I would almost argue nobody can eat that much a day clean

[pumping_iron]

6100 calories...professional swimmer, eh? And you take in exactly 6100? Lol that's precise bro.

[Back In Black]

And let's have a pic of this 7% bf too. Not saying i don't believe you just curious to see.

[Twin]

troll...

[Ajack3dyounG]

How do I post a picture?

[Ajack3dyounG]

And it's not 100 % clean but I don't eat shit

[Ajack3dyounG]

I love how I'm here to get advice and tips, and I get guys who don't look half as good trolling me, though don't get me wrong 8100 calories was a mistake, I eat fairly clean especially to be muscular and 7%

[fit2bOld]

I ate 8100 calories, took me 3 days.

[Tron3219]

I love how I'm here to get advice and tips, and I get guys who don't look half as good trolling me, though don't get me wrong 8100 calories was a mistake, I eat fairly clean especially to be muscular and 7%

It's because it's bullshit that u eat 6100 calories and stay at 10% (ur not 7%). I weigh 228lbs at about 15%bf. I have more lean body mass then your entire mass combined by 20 pounds! I only eat 3800 to sometimes 4000 cal a day. I REALLY want to know ur diet break down complete with macros

-TroN-

[Beyazit]

Oh my freakin god, what the **** is 6100 cals m8, you preparin for the "Who eats the most hot dogs contest!"

[warmouth]

Funny stuff.

[EyE]

i eat 20,000 real clean

Probably in one BIG meal to, rofl

[austinite]

It's because it's bullshit that u eat 6100 calories and stay at 10% (ur not 7%). I weigh 228lbs at about 15%bf. I have more lean body mass then your entire mass combined by 20 pounds! I only eat 3800 to sometimes 4000 cal a day. I REALLY want to know ur diet break down complete with macros

-TroN-

Not even close.

[Tron3219]

Not even close.

Kids these days....

-TroN-

[MuscleInk]

I love how I'm here to get advice and tips, and I get guys who don't look half as good trolling me, though don't get me wrong 8100 calories was a mistake, I eat fairly clean especially to be muscular and 7%

Stick around longer and see how much bs we deal with daily and you'll start to appreciate the cynicism. Lol

MuscleInk

[Granovich]

dude why just test prop and dbol
take fvckin Tren ace at like 100mg ED
some EQ at high dose is great
and dont forget t3 and clen you will get ripped and DEAD or with fvcked up endocrine system for life
you will cry like a b-i-t-c-h every night and wish you never did it and you will go to doctors daily and try to recover and guess what!!!! it wont happen
i have been there and done that... not ****in worth it!!!!

[Granovich]

Kids these days....

-TroN-

you gotta admit its nice physique for 19 years old after 1 year of training * if its him *
dont break his spirit bro

[Tron3219]

If it is, then his spirits do need to b broken. He needs to be humbled. His shit stinks just like everyone else's. he wants advice, he needs to be honest for himself. We could care less, we've been doing this long enough to smell bullshit.

And yeah he does have a good physique for 19, but look at butterygoodness, same age, twice as impressive. Just because he looks better then his friends doesn't mean there's not ppl around that don't just talk to talk but walk to walk.

-TroN-

[Granovich]

If it is, then his spirits do need to b broken. He needs to be humbled. His shit stinks just like everyone else's. he wants advice, he needs to be honest for himself. We could care less, we've been doing this long enough to smell bullshit.

And yeah he does have a good physique for 19, but look at butterygoodness, same age, twice as impressive. Just because he looks better then his friends doesn't mean there's not ppl around that don't just talk to talk but walk to walk.

-TroN-

you are absolutely right. its all about respect. and the way to talk to people
all members here especially knowledgeable members all they want is safety of other members who come and ask for help
but some people dont appreciate it and think they are being flamed
which is stupid

[RipOwens]

I really don't understand ppl coming on here and demanding advice. Odd.