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  1. 03-21-2013, 11:52 PM #1
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    New to steroids

    Hello. I recently turned 24 and believe I am done growing so I would like to reach my MAXIMUM potential. I must say there is A LOT of information here and I don't want to read the wrong things. What should I focus learning about? I would like to educate myself on this subject so much so that I can plan all my cycles and PCT. I have done a cycle of test without educating myself, my buddy and I acted like idiots I know. I used 250mg Test and my strength has gone through the roof and stayed. It has been over 16 weeks since my last T injection and I only ised HCG for PCT. I am not looking to bodybuild. I only desire performance. Would someone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? There are about a million stickies and I want to be sure I learn correctly so that I can use not abuse.
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    lol, how do you know you're done growing? Did you get X-rays recently?

    Anyway... lookup Beginner Cycles by MickeyKnox. Lots of good info for you in that thread.

    Good luck and welcome aboard.
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  4. 03-21-2013, 11:56 PM #4
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    Performance being CrossFit. My strength is adequate for now but I want to be a freak. Muscular endurance and strength are my goals.


    Bench 265
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    Deadlift 515
    Front Squat 315
    Snatch 255
    Clean and Jerk 295
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    ^ Stats =

    Age: 24
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    Body Fat percentage
    Years in training
    Cycle History (none)
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    You could also read our stickys.There is a ton of info there!
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    Cool man. This is the place for all the training and diet knowledge. Welcome aboard. ...crazy mike
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  8. 03-22-2013, 12:03 AM #8
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    Nutrition is spot on. 6 meals consisting of evenly distibuted fats carbs and protein leaning towards protein a little more.

    Around 3-4000 cals daily

    Supplement with Syntha-6, Amino-X (Green Apple...YUM) Cell Mass.

    Mon - Conjugate Strength + Metabolic Conditioning
    Tues- Endurance Work or Rest (depends how I feel)
    Wed - Conjugate Strength + Metabolic Conditioning
    Thur - Metabolic Conditioning
    Friday - Conjugate Strength
    Sat - Rest
    Sunday - HEAVY OLYMPIC LIFTING

    Any help is Much appreciated

    Macronutrients?
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  9. 03-22-2013, 12:04 AM #9
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    5'10
    Between 190-195 Flutuate A LOT

    Bf around 13-15%
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaLkeN View Post
    Nutrition is spot on. 6 meals consisting of evenly distibuted fats carbs and protein leaning towards protein a little more.

    Around 3-4000 cals daily

    Supplement with Syntha-6, Amino-X (Green Apple...YUM) Cell Mass.

    Mon - Conjugate Strength + Metabolic Conditioning
    Tues- Endurance Work or Rest (depends how I feel)
    Wed - Conjugate Strength + Metabolic Conditioning
    Thur - Metabolic Conditioning
    Friday - Conjugate Strength
    Sat - Rest
    Sunday - HEAVY OLYMPIC LIFTING

    Any help is Much appreciated

    Macronutrients?
    How do your calories break down? fats/carbs/protien. The reason we ask is because 100% of folks say "Diet is spot on" and 99% of the time it's not. In other words, lack of proper nutrition is usually the issue, not lack of gear. But if you want to list a typical days eatings, we can evaluate it for you.
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  11. 03-22-2013, 12:06 AM #11
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    There are a lot of stickies and a lot of what they say is almost japanese so is there a more basic what happens when I take roids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaLkeN View Post
    There are a lot of stickies and a lot of what they say is almost japanese so is there a more basic what happens when I take roids?
    Nothing really happens if you're not eating decent and above your TDEE. Just a waste of gear.
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  13. 03-22-2013, 12:12 AM #13
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    TDEE?

    Meal 1 4 Eggs berries and veggies

    Meal 2 syntha aminox cell mass

    Meal 3 chicken or steal with A LOT of veggiez

    Meal 4 chicken with VEGGGGGGGIEZ

    Meal 5 Kimchi and Chicken and almonds walnuts or whatever I have

    Meal 6 Peanut butter :/
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  14. 03-22-2013, 12:13 AM #14
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    I guesa my diet isn't that spot on :/
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  15. 03-22-2013, 12:15 AM #15
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    Sorry for the delayed response. All I got is a phone. I had to sell my computer for protein powder and food.
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    ^ unless youre eating massive qty's, I dont see 4000 cals. And you really don't know what macros you're taking.

    TDEE is your Total Daily Energy Expenditure. You need to get that number so that you can bulk by adding 500+ calories to it. Minding your macro-nutrients.

    Please visit the nutrition section, your issue is not gear, it's diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaLkeN View Post
    Sorry for the delayed response. All I got is a phone. I had to sell my computer for protein powder and food.
    I cant tell if you're joking or not. But if you really sold your PC for food, then the LAST thing on your mind should be steroids...
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  18. 03-22-2013, 12:17 AM #18
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    They are large quantities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaLkeN View Post
    They are large quantities.



    Please visit the nutrition section, your issue is not gear, it's diet.
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  20. 03-22-2013, 12:18 AM #20
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    Ill worry about my priorities. I am simply asking for help not life advice.
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    However I will go read all I can about fixing my nutrition. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaLkeN View Post
    Ill worry about my priorities. I am simply asking for help not life advice.
    Ok. Well you need to learn how to eat, you obviously don't.

    I'll let others chime in. Sorry to bother you, not my intent.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Ok. Well you need to learn how to eat, you obviously don't.

    I'll let others chime in. Sorry to bother you, not my intent.

    Good luck.

    You aren't bothering me at all. I am here for this reason exactly. I need to unf*** myself.
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  24. 03-22-2013, 12:28 AM #24
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    Once I get my nutrition adequate what should I learn about next? Or slow my rolls and one step at a time? I didn't get xrays...but its a known fact that steroids are acceptably used by your community after the age of 23. I imagine because people are done growing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaLkeN View Post
    Once I get my nutrition adequate what should I learn about next? Or slow my rolls and one step at a time? I didn't get xrays...but its a known fact that steroids are acceptably used by your community after the age of 23. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    No one can stop you. There isnt an age that says you're fully grown. Only epiphyseal X-rays can tell. I would have given you the same advice if you were 40. My advice wasnt based on age.
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  26. 03-22-2013, 12:32 AM #26
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    Well I will take your advice and try to educate myself on nutrition. Thanks
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    Good call. Start here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UUv7oRyG2pc
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  28. 03-22-2013, 12:44 AM #28
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    I just hope I don't have to give up Kimchi
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaLkeN View Post
    I just hope I don't have to give up Kimchi
    Just go easy on the wasbi, it burns like a mf'r.
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    Real wasabi or that radish bull?
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