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    Cool post cycle if your cruising year around?

    Been awhile since i've posted on here. Been doing some research, and need some opinions on post cycle! I am on a docotor's script of 200 mg. of cyp. a week, so I never come off. My question is, when I bump up and hit a cycle like the one I'm starting as we speak,
    600 to 800 test E per week x 15 weeks
    600 EQ week x 10 weeks
    masteron /100 eod weeks 10 thru 15
    I'm wondering after this what pct do I really need since I will still be taking the 200 mg. of test ?

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    From what I understand, no pct needed just go back to your trt dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppwc1985 View Post
    From what I understand, no pct needed just go back to your trt dose.
    I believe this is correct as well. Hopefully someone a little more knowledgeable can confirm.

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    That's why I was asking! I'm reading alot of post that seem to be that way, no pct! This is cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppwc1985 View Post
    From what I understand, no pct needed just go back to your trt dose.
    Exactly right

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    Very good question. I'm staying on...and on. At 61 I came back into the world of aas and when I started my natural level was at 619 with the normal ranges 290 +/- to 1200+/-So anyway I am not on TRT and no PCT. I am on AI and brought my E2 down from overboard to except able. I am on low dose aas now and when I recover from my surgery I will plug back in with a cycle of what I choose at very high levels. I will continue BW and watch wat's up with E2 and other levels to keep it as safe as I can. No one has told me YET that I need to plug ant PCT in. And but where, when and what for. I just plan a rest a break from high doses . So it maybe quite different but I don't know. At 200 mg wk at time off I wouldn't think so, but someone else with low test or more knowledge will tell you more. I'm doing good so far not coming off. But again, look at my age ???? and my long haul is different. good luck ...crazy mike
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    No pct required. One benefit of TRT.

    Question. What do your levels run at on 200 per week?
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    I don't do PCT...haven't been off in years.

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    Thanks Mike! I am looking age 50 in the eye, and appreciate that someone even more senior is still in the game as well! And I to, go on and off with the high doses, have been for several years, and not seen any real side's, my doc did put me on arimidex for a short time because my blood was high in iron! I dont remember what the actually called it, but normal range was 12 and mine was 17 is all i remember! The main reason I'm asking, is because evrything I've ever taken for PCT makes mr feel like crap! So if I don't have to, I'm not gonna! Just looking for other's experiance"s!

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    Just maintain control of your estrogen with the proper panel. Meaning a sensitive assay....
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    So are you sugesting an estrogen blocker? That's what I'm not sure about?

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    Here's a good way to look at it.

    Q: What's the purpose of PCT?
    A: (short answer) to stimulate natural testosterone production.

    Conclusion: If you are a TRT patient, meaning you suffer from low testosterone or sub-optimal levels, your body no longer has the ability to produce enough natural testosterone. For this reason, a PCT would be useless for such an individual. It would be like picking up a rock and asking it to turn into a potato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Here's a good way to look at it.

    Q: What's the purpose of PCT?
    A: (short answer) to stimulate natural testosterone production.

    Conclusion: If you are a TRT patient, meaning you suffer from low testosterone or sub-optimal levels, your body no longer has the ability to produce enough natural testosterone. For this reason, a PCT would be useless for such an individual. It would be like picking up a rock and asking it to turn into a potato.
    Too complicated!
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    I'm suggesting knowing your E2. If you're on TRT you should know where it runs and maintain a safe level based on BW. Said BW determines if you need an AI or not. When your blasting it would naturally require more of an AI as more test = higher degree of aromatization.

    Read this:

    http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/...ng-Male_01.htm

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    ^ agree and thats a great read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Too complicated!
    Perhaps, lol!

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    I understand, but wondered if when I'm on higher doses at times, will I have the normal post cycle side's when coming off? I didn't think so, but thoght I'd get some opinion's! I havn't been completly off in 5 or 6 years and feel fantastic! And most people are blown away when I tell them how old I am!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post



    Time for a check-up Austinite?
    haha. Yup. Tomorrow, blood work. Excited.
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    Glad all is well. I'm not young anymore either and understand. Just don't base things on just how you feel and look. Proper BW tells all and can be a life saver! Get it done routinely.
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    Thank's! will do. I usually go in evry august to my Urologist, maybe I should go more freaquently?

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    That's between you and your doc. I wouldn't go less than twice per year IMHO.
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    I get BW every 6 months. Have since I turned 40. My doc writes up whatever labs I need if I need more often. The only question he ever asks is why I'm asking as in what makes me think.I need to see my numbers outside the usual schedule. He's cool. I've been up front with him about all the stuff I've done.

    I recommend every 6 months + before mid, and a few months or so after a cycle.

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