guys who blast an cruse ???

[jrlabat]

what would yall say r the biggest pros an cons of blasting an cursing ,

[austinite]

No price discussion brother.

[jrlabat]

No price discussion brother.

my bad austinite i fixed it

[austinite]

All good man, thank you

[havanakid]

heres one pro...no need for pct....one con or semicon would be adjustng your ai amounts and doing more bloodwork.

[kelkel]

Estrogen control as well as all the other related effects brought about by AAS usage. No PCT as stated until you come off and restart. Extreme caution and self-education is key if you choose this path.

[kelkel]

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[MuscleInk]

I'm of the opinion if you don't have a legitimate need, don't abuse anabolics. If you have a healthy neuroendocrine system, cycle properly. Give your body a break. Allow it to recover between cycles and be grateful you don't need to inject or apply testosterone daily the rest of your life.

I see way too many young guys looking to abuse TRT because they view it as a legal outlet for steroids . Do you take low doses of T3 between cutting cycles and then ramp it up when you want to cut? Do you stay on clenbuterol or albuterol year round, increasing doses just to lose weight? No. There is no need to cruise and blast either if your HTPA is healthy and providing normal levels of testosterone .

MuscleInk

[jrlabat]

if someone is to do this responsible,smartly an being educated would for say this is the way to go for someone who plans to use AAS for long period of time? can it be done safely for a long time ?

[auswest]

if someone is to do this responsible,smartly an being educated would for say this is the way to go for someone who plans to use AAS for long period of time? can it be done safely for a long time ?

I believe there is nothing smart nor responsible about "cruising on test". When your body has no issue producing its own natural testosterone .
Staying on aas for a long period of time is abuse.

[MuscleInk]

if someone is to do this responsible,smartly an being educated would for say this is the way to go for someone who plans to use AAS for long period of time? can it be done safely for a long time ?

If you don't need TRT, there is nothing smart or responsible about using it.

MuscleInk

[kelkel]

Look, like MI said. AAS can be a great asset if used responsibly. Key word responsibly. You only have one HPTA and you can't replace it. Unless you're getting your pro card or otherwise make a living off of this in some related field then it's not worth it.

Listen to MI. Don't tell anyone but he's a physician....

[MuscleInk]

Look, like MI said. AAS can be a great asset if used responsibly. Key word responsibly. You only have one HPTA and you can't replace it. Unless you're getting your pro card or otherwise make a living off of this in some related field then it's not worth it.

Listen to MI. Don't tell anyone but he's a physician....

Lol....that secret is safe and sound now.

MuscleInk

[jrlabat]

yall guys really do help with making decision.. it was just something i been reading about for awhile but like y'all said use an abuse r two different things my health comes first ! an at kelkel i would like to go for the pro card one day man but i know its not gonna happen any time soon man

[jrlabat]

Look, like MI said. AAS can be a great asset if used responsibly. Key word responsibly. You only have one HPTA and you can't replace it. Unless you're getting your pro card or otherwise make a living off of this in some related field then it's not worth it.

Listen to MI. Don't tell anyone but he's a physician....

is that you in your ava pic man ?

[kelkel]

Lol....that secret is safe and sound now.

MuscleInk

Damn right.

is that you in your ava pic man ?

Yes.

[RuhlFreak55]

cons? Well....being on forever I guess, but I don't see that as a con yet.

[Lunk1]

It's funny the ppl who cycle are so interested in B&C and talk of TRT like it's no big deal but nearly every TRT patient speaks like they wish they were not. Something to consider for those considering TRT when it isnt actually neccessary

[Allaaro]

TRT isn't a big deal....blasting and cruising is lot more healthier then doing multiple cycles/pct in a year. If your goals/endo system make TRT the best choice for you, pinning 1-2x per week really isn't a big deal. Anyone who says otherwise isn't being realistic.

But, most people don't even need AAS and should be natural still yet jump on gear way too early and don't go off because they want to get the girls and don't even know what pct is....that I don't support.

[BBJT200]

Being on TRT out of need, I really don't find it to be much of a bother.
In fact, the peace of mind knowing that I can't screw my endo system up any worse is kind of nice.

If I didn't need trt due to my accident, I honestly think i'd put myself on it anyway due to my profession/goals. To advance in my job, it's a necessity to be on year-round.

[Getbig06]

TRT isn't a big deal....blasting and cruising is lot more healthier then doing multiple cycles/pct in a year. If your goals/endo system make TRT the best choice for you, pinning 1-2x per week really isn't a big deal. Anyone who says otherwise isn't being realistic.

But, most people don't even need AAS and should be natural still yet jump on gear way too early and don't go off because they want to get the girls and don't even know what pct is....that I don't support.

Isn't becoming sterile a possible con on cruising?

[BBJT200]

Isn't becoming sterile a possible con of cruising?

If you let your testicles atrophy, it is much more of a risk.
If you use HCG , you have a pretty good chance at being able to conceive.
But yes...that is a possible con of cruising.

[lovbyts]

It's funny the ppl who cycle are so interested in B&C and talk of TRT like it's no big deal but nearly every TRT patient speaks like they wish they were not. Something to consider for those considering TRT when it isnt actually neccessary

Exactly. I have not spoke to one singe TRT patient (yes I'm on TRT) who would choose to be on if they had a choice.

How does HAVING to pin at least 1x a week for the rest of your life sound? This means even if things change in your life and you no longer have time to work out you still have to be on TRT and pin 1x a week for life because you have permanently shut down your test production.

Now if it was as simple as pinning 1x a week that would be great also; BUT it's not and especially if you ever plan on having kids or you dont like having balls like a 12yr old boy then you will also need to take HCG meaning you will have to pin 3x a week to do it correctly so now you are up to 4x a week. Have you ever priced HCG? OMG and most insurance companies dont cover it. It wil cost you as much if not more than a full cycle but it has nothing to do with muscle growth.

Speaking of insurance; do you have any guarantee that you will always have insurance or that your testosterone will always be covered? If you have a lapse in insurance at any time you may have to buy your testosterone at cost. You could also loose your prescription due to no health insurance or some change in insurance then what?

I could go on for several sentences but I think you get the point. There are a LOT of Cons.

[OnTheSauce]

Isn't becoming sterile a possible con on cruising?

Apparently not... im now expecting. I used hcg , but not non stop. I typically use it 2x a week but sometimes forget. And there would be a month lapse here and there where I didn't take any. But I don't have much atrophy at all. Even with no hcg for months, no shrinkage. Idk

[lovbyts]

Isn't becoming sterile a possible con on cruising?

Apparently not... im now expecting.

Congratulations but it's not the norm. Yes it's very likely to go sterile, just ask any urologist. Especially after being on for extended time but that is why many people use hcg to help keep things working.

[OnTheSauce]

I figured I was sterile. Hoped I was anyway. Didn't ever want kids. Starting to get excited though

[Getbig06]

Bro, I just don't see the need of staying on 365 unless u earn ur living from ur body. The way I view it, I wouldnt take anything 365. If I drank everyday for 365, I'd be an alcoholic. If I took advil or Tylenol 365, I'd probably get massive ulcers and destroy stomach. Too much of something is good for nothing. Staying on 365 is abuse, no matter what substance we are talking about

[kronik420]

Exactly. I have not spoke to one singe TRT patient (yes I'm on TRT) who would choose to be on if they had a choice.

How does HAVING to pin at least 1x a week for the rest of your life sound? This means even if things change in your life and you no longer have time to work out you still have to be on TRT and pin 1x a week for life because you have permanently shut down your test production.

Now if it was as simple as pinning 1x a week that would be great also; BUT it's not and especially if you ever plan on having kids or you dont like having balls like a 12yr old boy then you will also need to take HCG meaning you will have to pin 3x a week to do it correctly so now you are up to 4x a week. Have you ever priced HCG? OMG and most insurance companies dont cover it. It wil cost you as much if not more than a full cycle but it has nothing to do with muscle growth.

Speaking of insurance; do you have any guarantee that you will always have insurance or that your testosterone will always be covered? If you have a lapse in insurance at any time you may have to buy your testosterone at cost. You could also loose your prescription due to no health insurance or some change in insurance then what?

I could go on for several sentences but I think you get the point. There are a LOT of Cons.

all good points ^

was thinking of b&c but now idk.. maybe not..

[kelkel]

I figured I was sterile. Hoped I was anyway. Didn't ever want kids. Starting to get excited though

Congratulations Patrick! Keep us informed!

[OnTheSauce]

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