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    Wink my first cycle looking for opinios

    I'm runing tren ace eod + test prop eod now my question is do i need to add anything else to this mix am doing 1 1/2 of tren ace and 1 1/2 test prop . 250 pouns. 5/7 trying to get cut plus get size

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    Youre 5' 7" and weigh 250lbs and your first cycle is Tren ? Good Lord...

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    What's your training history and what's your diet look like? And just FYI, highly highly recommended to so a test only first cycle plus your basic AI, HCG , and proper pct.. Hope you know what all that is.. Reason for test only is so if you have side effects to know exactly what it is. What is your age , and body fat % also

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    My diet is high protein low carbs , i eat every 3 hourmy traning i been in this game like 5 years and i decided to run my first cycle i mean 5/7 250 it sound like im a fat **** lol but am not am and good shape i cpuld do pull ups lol

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    At the top of the page in the search, type in "most common beginners cycles" and click on the one that is posted by mr mickeyknox himself. Read up! Tons of useful info brought to you by a very experienced member.. I would copy and paste link but phone not working properly.

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    What is your bodyfat %? Care to throw up a pic?
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    Where do you feel you are on this body fat template?

    my first cycle looking for opinios-bf-men.jpg

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    Body fat is gonna be a huge factor in this.. If you don't know you need to find out BEFORE you run anything, and do you have your AI and HCG on hand? And do you have your PCT on hand also?!?

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    In the 25% mark

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    I know body fat is the key the opends the door to this world of steroids but i been doing some heavy cardio plus am doing the insanity work out plus i be in the gym frake
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    Quote Originally Posted by neverbackdown View Post
    I know body fat is the key the opends the dpor to this world of steroids but i been doing some heavy cardio plus am doing the insanity work out
    That's good because you need to adjust your diet and reduce your Body Fat to around 15% before you begin your cycle. This will also reduce your likelihood of experiencing unwanted sides attributed to high E2 levels like, Erectile Dysfunction (ED), Acne, Raised Blood Pressure, Increased Heart Rate, Bloating, Cardio vascular Issues, Changes to your Cholesterol Factors (HDL-C, LDL-C, TG, TC) and Mood swings...ect.

    Excess fatty tissue is a huge proponent of Estrogen. "Adipose tissue can contribute significantly to the circulating pool of estrogens." You want your BF to be as low as possible before you begin your proposed cycle - very important! http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11511861

    Please head over to the Nutritional Forums and the Specialists in there will assist you in developing a solid diet that will reflect your intended goals and slim you down to a more suitable and safe BF%. Remember, your gains and body composition begins in the kitchen, not the needle.

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    Well say mickey

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    ^^^ x 2 like I mentioned before, very experienced member with lots of great info..

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    Well thaks guys for the replys i really appreciate it.

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    That's what we are here for buddy.

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    5.7" and 250 lbs ?

    I am 5.7 myself. I eat 6 times a day around 4500-5000 calories and I am 162 lbs dude. I am looking to get to 170-175 lbs before I start my first cycle in a months time probably. But you are way too above the range at 250 lbs IMHO.

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    Yeah man i have to be a big boy because of my job i do security so i always have to be alittle more stronger and biger but you know something 5/7 250 it sounds like am way to over weigh but if you see me i look like i'm 200 pounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverbackdown View Post
    Yeah man i have to be a big boy because of my job i do security so i always have to be alittle more stronger and biger but you know something 5/7 250 it sounds like am way to over weigh but if you see me i look like i'm 200 pounds
    Pics or it isn't true.

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    why evrytime i try to see my profile this come out am new to this site please help neverbackdown, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

    Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
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    no worries bro. You just dont have enough posts yet. I believe you need 50 posts.

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