Older Guy First Cycle Feedback or Comments

[want2Bbigger]

I've been reading this board for a couple of weeks ... lots of conflicting information and lots of excellent information ... here are my goals and plans. Any insight would be greatly appreicated. I posted on the "Over 30" forum with little feedback so I hope you don't mind that I also posted here.

First cycle. I hope I've read enough to avoid being flammed



Age: 42
Weight: 160
B/F: 13%-14%

Goal: 170- 175 lbs and B/F of 10%-12%

Planned Cycle:

Week 1-7 20mg ed of Dbol (denkall)
Week 1-8 25 mg ed of Proviron
Week 8-12 Clomid (unsure of the proper dosage, still researching)
Week 1-8 Milk Thistle ed

Diet

3500 Cal per Day -
150-200 Grams of protein per day

Workout
5x per week with personal trainer

What I hope:
Add 15-20 lbs then lose the water (5-10lbs) and end up with 10-15 lbs. I understand that the Proviron will help keep the water gain down from the dbol.

Also - I have available Androgol and could stack that if anyone thought it might help me acheive my goals.


I don't anticipate any future cycles - but will continue workout regiment and diet to keep it in shape (as long as possible considering that aging will continue to take it's toll).

[dizzle]

I don't really like that cycle. The dbol is a fairly low dose and 7 weeks is kind of long for dbol. I would suggest running dbol at 30-35mg/day for 4 weeks. Then I would run Test Enanthate at 400-500mg/week for 10 weeks. End off with Clomid week 12.

I don't beleive that Androgel is that helpful for mass gains.

[zillamonster]

Get you some kind of Test Bro!!! That cycle will not do much at all.

Zilla

[JohnnyB]

Bro go to the Doc and have blood work done, if you have low test you'll get a sript. Drop the d-bol it'll elevate your bp at our age you don't need that. Go with a test only cycle from 350-500mg of enanthate or cypionate a week.

JohnnyB

[blakyr]

You would defenetly benefit from test. You wont gain much weight off of your proposed cycle. I also agree that you should bump up the d-bol to about 30mg/ed for 4 weeks. It is mainly just to jump start your cycle if you use a longer lasting ester like test enan.
There are a ton of clomid threads, but the 300/100/50 is the way to go, and you have to decide what your are using to know when to start your clomid treatment. Let us know what you decide on the test! Good luck

[blakyr]

Johnny B has a good point with the D-bol... i didnt think about that. Good catch!!

[want2Bbigger]

Thanks gents - greatly appreicated!