3rd cycle critique

[snowblowjoe]

So my goals are to keep as much hair as possible and put on atleast 10 pounds of lean muscle mass. Want to drop my body fat from 15 percent down to about 10.

I wanted to run a 12 week test e but I want to be easy as possible on scalp so decided to go 8 weeks instead

Test prop 500mg ew
Tbol 100mg ed for first 14 days

Start hcg at week 4 at 500iu ew

Finasteride 1mg ed for duration of cycle
Dutasteride 1mg ed for duration of cycle
Spironolactone shampoo as needed

Will run aramosin 12.5 mg ed for first 2 weeks then will go 25mg ed for duration of cycle

Lemme know how this looks thanks

[Lunk1]

It looks like your a damn tard. You have been back and forth with gyno that is no doubt related to your hair loss meds and yet here you are AGAIN planning to make the same dan mistake. Get over your damn hair or stop messing with AAS. If your prone to MPB then you are doomed no matter what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[snowblowjoe]

Amazing insight lunk what a savior you are lol

Gyno is gone. And it wasn't due to hair loss meds it was prolactin related to using tren. Thanks for playing tho

[snowblowjoe]

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[BBJT200]

I would run tbol longer than 2 weeks.
I would go for 4

[snowblowjoe]

BBJt I just want to run the tbol for the first 2 weeks to kick my cycle in faster that's why I'm running it at 100mg ed. I've never run it before tho

[snowblowjoe]

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[snowblowjoe]

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[crazy mike]

. You will get nothing out of it in the long haul. If you want to kick something front load.
That will get it going no mater what. ...crazy mike

[fit2bOld]

Get some minoxidil and learn to eat and train. You will be big and still have hair. This whole thing is getting old quick.

[snowblowjoe]

I'm not using minoxidil dweeb. I already know how to eat and train.

[snowblowjoe]

Crazy mike how do you know tbol at 100mg ed will not kick it in faster? Have you ever tried my proposed protocol?

[Buster Brown]

Just my .02 cents but I didn't really feel the tbol for over a week. I was only doing half the amount that you will be doing. Hope you keep us posted as to what you think about the tbol@ 100mgs. Good luck.

[snowblowjoe]

how much were you doing Buster was it 50 milligrams every day and then you felt it in 2 weeks? Thanks for your input

[snowblowjoe]

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[snowblowjoe]

Going to reduce Finasteride to 1mg three times a week
And Dutasteride 1mg four times a week

Still going to use spirolactone as needed.

Depending how I feel after Tbol 14 days at 100mg ed I might lower dose to 70mg ed for another 7-14 days.

[snowblowjoe]

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[ScotchGuard02]

If you're really going for a cut, I'd look into stacking clen/T3 or T4/keto along with the Test. It's pretty good combo and I lost a lot of fat by running it.

[snowblowjoe]

Already got the clen and albuterol. About to order some t3 and have plenty of keto. Thanks

[snowblowjoe]

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[snowblowjoe]

Would there be any negatives to running my test prop cycle for 10 weeks instead of 8?

[snowblowjoe]

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[snowblowjoe]

Are there any risks to running a 10 week cycle instead of the normal 8 week cycle when it comes to test prop

[Lunk1]

Are there any risks to running a 10 week cycle instead of the normal 8 week cycle when it comes to test prop

Increased hair loss

[snowblowjoe]

This is true lunk. Why is 8 weeks so set in stone for cycle length when it comes to short esters tho? Why not 10 weeks? Especially for those not concerned with hair loss

[Granovich]

its just hair brother!!!
shave that B-I-T-C-H

[Buster Brown]

8 isn't set in stone but if you think about, a long esther tes takes approx. 4 weeks to kick in and the rest is gain theoretically (along with a ton of other factors) so by the end of the week on a short esther cycle your blood levels would be high as week 4 (really 5) of a long esther.

[Lunk1]

This is true lunk. Why is 8 weeks so set in stone for cycle length when it comes to short esters tho? Why not 10 weeks? Especially for those not concerned with hair loss

It comes down to diminished gains and recovery. After approx. 8 weeks on a short estered AAS the gains tend to decrease and the recovery becomes more risky as well as sides starting to out weight the gains. It's not that you cant stay on longer, it;s just that you have to asses the risk vs reward.

[snowblowjoe]

Lunk. thank you for the constructive insight. I've decided against taking such a high does a tbol for two weeks to lower it to 80 milligrams every day for 4 weeks instead. I'm going to get more blood work but my last blood work everything was great and in check so I believe my liver can handle one more oral. If after week 6 and I'm still not happy with what I'm seeing I might consider running Winnie for the last 21 days of my cycle. And yes lunk I know Winny is hard on the scalp thank you for your concern

[Lunk1]

Lunk. thank you for the constructive insight. I've decided against taking such a high does a tbol for two weeks to lower it to 80 milligrams every day for 4 weeks instead. I'm going to get more blood work but my last blood work everything was great and in check so I believe my liver can handle one more oral. If after week 6 and I'm still not happy with what I'm seeing I might consider running Winnie for the last 21 days of my cycle. And yes lunk I know Winny is hard on the scalp thank you for your concern

Your confused...YOU are worried about your hair, I am worried about your E2 levels I will tell you that 80mg is a sweet spot for me and Tbol. 100 gave me serious back pumps.

[snowblowjoe]

I'm worried about my hair but not that worried otherwise I wouldn't be cycling. I took propecia for a year and I had no negative effects at all. The Gyno was from prolactin induced Gyno due to tren

[Lunk1]

I'm worried about my hair but not that worried otherwise I wouldn't be cycling. I took propecia for a year and I had no negative effects at all. The Gyno was from prolactin induced Gyno due to tren

I hope your right.....

[snowblowjoe]

I hope so too lunk!!! It's kind of a win win situation though because even before I cycled I had very very minor Gyno which was so minor that about 10 different plastic surgeons I went to refused to operate on me. So this way if I do get Gyno it will least be noticeable enough so someone will actually operate on it and get it completely taken out lol

[bigJ_777]

Just watch your bp on the winny. Stuff gave me nosebleeds like a mofo

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[snowblowjoe]

I get three 0.3mg clonidine prescribed a day. I don't take that much but needless to say high blood pressure isn't a problem. Thanks.