**oral only - anavar**

[torontodude]

Hello fellow bodybuilders/athletes.

So basically I'm posting this in hopes that someone considering an oral only cycle (Anavar being most popular) will do more research and maybe reconsider.
A good friend I met at my gym about a year ago decided to do an Anavar cycle:

Anavar 40mg/day for 7 weeks
Nolvadex for PCT

I tried to talk him out of it, as I didn't understand what he was trying to gain out of an Anavar only cycle. I told him to go online and do some research, which he did, went on a few forums and was flamed a bit. But that didn't change his mind as everywhere else he looked he read "Anavar is the mildest, not very toxic, not very androgenic", which made him believe ZERO SIDES. So he did more research but his research was 'biased' as he was researching what he wanted to hear, which basically can be done with anything you research. I tried one last time to give him solid advise, but he went with it anyways.

Now it's about 8 months after his cycle and PCT.....

His gains were about a solid 6 pounds, but kept about 4.
Libido practically non existant and now on Viagra.
His hair has thinned out quite a bit.

So now I ask him was it worth it? He regrets it and wished he did take others advise and maybe should have cycled it with some Test.
No sex drive, can barely get it up, thinner hair for only 4 pounds? Poor guy.

I just posted this so that anyone thinking of doing an oral only cycle it will encourage them to do more research. And not be confused when you read things like 'Anavar is the mildest' as it can definitely cause you to shutdown (also increase DHT & bad cholesterol). There's a reason why the experts here will advise you to avoid something, or to cycle something with something else, they have a lot of experience and have done a lot of research. If you're considering an Anavar only cycle (which is becoming extremely popular), I hope you stumble upon my post first.

Train hard, eat right,
TorontoDude

[kelkel]

Interesting read.

[BBJT200]

thanks for throwing this up for people to see.

[MickeyKnox]

Sorry to hear about your friend.

This definitely belongs in Marcus's thread.

[Tron3219]

If I was gonna be dumb enough to do a var only, id at least run 100mg and get something out of it...geesh...

Oh yeah, oral only...no-no!

-TroN-

[smileybeast]

Thank you for posting this, I wish your friend better luck in the future and hopefully he will be okay again!!

I was thinking of running anavar only 1 month ago, because I feelt young and invincible.. good I did my research about it before doing any thing stupid!!

[torontodude]

Thank you for posting this, I wish your friend better luck in the future and hopefully he will be okay again!!

I was thinking of running anavar only 1 month ago, because I feelt young and invincible.. good I did my research about it before doing any thing stupid!!

Glad to hear brother, wish you all the best!

[MickeyKnox]

A quick reminder..


Anavar - The Truth

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UODpRKzX_fs

[Jacked121]

LOL why are people so scared of anavar its so weak at shutting down...im on anavar only right now and feel amazing wit good sex drive And hair thinning on Anavar? i highly doubt he got anavar most likely got sold winstrol. Yeah anavar is a dht but very VERy light on the hair

[hulkmania]

Great post man! I actually did two anavar only cycles, felt great while I was on it but when I'm off, getting the boy up is just not the same as it used to be. Definitely never doing that again, guess you live and learn.

[MickeyKnox]

LOL why are people so scared of anavar its so weak at shutting down...im on anavar only right now and feel amazing wit good sex drive And hair thinning on Anavar? i highly doubt he got anavar most likely got sold winstrol. Yeah anavar is a dht but very VERy light on the hair

Thats dose dependent bro. Its like suggesting extra light cigarettes dont cause cancer.

[Jacked121]

Yea testosterone did that to me after cycle, Make sure you use something that lowers shbg in pct, should fix ur problem

[Jacked121]

How would u know what im dosing it at, I'm dosing at 60mg and That kid only did 40mg

[Alinjr]

Wow.

[GL88]

A while back I actually have done one anavar only cycle and didn't actually experience any of the negative effects I hear alot About. Maybe I just got lucky that one time

[torontodude]

How would u know what im dosing it at, I'm dosing at 60mg and That kid only did 40mg

The point of this thread was to just inform people and let them know there is no perfect steroid (without sides), that's what MickyKnox's point was when he said "Its like suggesting extra light cigarettes dont cause cancer". And yes my friend you're right we didn't know how much you're dosing or assumed any, just like suggesting my friend is "That kid", I never disclosed his age. He's 30 by the way.

To each their own, every substance affects everybody differently and Anavar is no exception to sides.

[Jacked121]

Bro u didn't get lucky, recovery on var is easy and most people that report those side effects got winstrol or low dose dbol

[Jacked121]

not tryin to get at you, just let your boy know he got winstrol cause thats what he got, ****ed up hair = winstrol not var

[dickster]

Changed my mind, thanks.

[InTransit]

8 months later and he's still got no libido???

Shut down is shut down, if you're shut down from test or an oral, you're still shut down.

If you run proper PCT your natural test should bounce back, shouldn't be any difference if you ran test base or not.

Not sure about the hairline either, probably winny, and shouldn't that just be on cycle?

[BNR]

Doing research on this and found out that I dont know what PCT means lol, anyways heard that Avavar gives you crazy pumps this true??

[songdog]

Hey I know someone who will argue this point.But I see the kid isnt here.But this is the 2nd guy I know of who got messed up on Var.

[Freestyle Child]

Thats the problem with steroids and young, its SO simple to just take a few pills a day thinking it's okay, because our society is all anti-biotics and pills to help us (ridiculous) which IMHO has a huge impact on the way the young think and look on steroids. Then you mention the pin to them and their scared to s**t. Might actually be better in some cases IMO.

FC

[spiderangel]

old thread but wanted to share my experience. i ran a var / clen cycle at 34 years old and had amazing results. never wanted to run heavy gear as im not stepping on stage so whats the point lol, just like hard and lean look for summer. after reading all of these ever run anything without a test base bullshit posts, i ran var / clen and a low dose of T along with adex. i know have gyno, thanks steroid forums

[Juced_porkchop]

great thread!

Test base always, and a good PCT!

[blastfire99]

I am 5'7 170lbs lifting for 1 year and 6 months. Body fat is 10.22 percent. I am 20 years old. I know that people are going to say that you need to wait longer but not interested in hearing that. Honestly, if I run 50mg of anavar everyday for a month and I pct with a nolvadex will I be fine? Im scared my dick wont get up after the cycle. I was told by so many people that use anavar and they didnt even pct with it and they are fine down there. Please someone give me feedback bout this topic and btw im new to the whole steriod community and this is going to be my first steroid cycle.

[MuscleInk]

I am 5'7 170lbs lifting for 1 year and 6 months. Body fat is 10.22 percent. I am 20 years old. I know that people are going to say that you need to wait longer but not interested in hearing that. Honestly, if I run 50mg of anavar everyday for a month and I pct with a nolvadex will I be fine? Im scared my dick wont get up after the cycle. I was told by so many people that use anavar and they didnt even pct with it and they are fine down there. Please someone give me feedback bout this topic and btw im new to the whole steriod community and this is going to be my first steroid cycle.

First of all, get used to not hearing everything you want to hear. That is LIFE kid. Suck it up and accept it. You can do what ever you want but not everyone is going to agree with it. Take the good with the bad comments and just live with it. To damn bad.

We don't condone steroids for kids because you risk shutting down your HTPA which is still developing and suffering long term problems. You and every other young man that comes in here thinks, "oh no, that won't happen to me". Really? Stick around longer than 10 minutes and have a read of the threads by numerous men your age who are now facing a life time of TRT because their dicks don't work, they have no libido, they are depressed, and some are still recovering from screwing up their blood work. You don't know what you don't know and to bad if you don't want to hear it.

As for anavar alone, your research should have told you it is NOT a smart idea. Anavar is suppressive so you will shut down your natural testosterone and not replace it with a synthetic. Testosterone is what makes a man a man, so if you'd rather be a woman and not have any testosterone in your body, proceed with your plan.

As for those people who were "fine", did you see their blood work? What is your clinical assessment of it? Don't assume everyone is fine just because you don't see a problem. Many people who have a stroke think they are fine as well......until they drop dead.

Cycling at your age is just simply a bad idea. You are free to do what ever you wish, but do a lot more research about the suppressive effects of anavar and what a proper cycle should look like.

[blastfire99]

ok well than you for the advice and help. Im hearing that from many of knowledgeable steroid users that I should use a test base and not use a oral only cycle alone without it. How much test do you recommend for me to take while im running this anavar cyle. Also if I run var I need a pct for that and im guessing that I need a pct for the test that i am going to take. Hey man and thank you for your good feedback it's much appreciated.

[lovbyts]

ok well than you for the advice and help. Im hearing that from many of knowledgeable steroid users that I should use a test base and not use a oral only cycle alone without it. How much test do you recommend for me to take while im running this anavar cyle. Also if I run var I need a pct for that and im guessing that I need a pct for the test that i am going to take. Hey man and thank you for your good feedback it's much appreciated.

None because it's not just about using test with it but also your HPTA due to age. You have a LOT of natural testosterone and can put it all a risk.