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    on week 5. need input

    I'm on week 5 first time ever doing a cycle. Started with sus3 2xw. Going to test4 2xw does this sound about right for a cycle. Just starting to see results. I'm 28 170lbs don't know body fat but I'm just prettyavg build. Should I use more for better results?

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    whats your whole cycle plan??

    are you using an AI?

    HCG ?

    whats your PCT plan??

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    can you explain what Sus3 and test4 are? Do they have the ester breakdowns listed?

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    Sustanon 300 (test propionate phynelpropanate decapitate) that was week 1-5 twice weekly 1ml getting ready to start test 400 twice weekly 1ml

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    I'm goin off what my friend Told me to use. That's about what he does and he's gotten pretty good results

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Sustanon 300 (test propionate phynelpropanate decapitate) that was week 1-5 twice weekly 1ml getting ready to start test 400 twice weekly 1ml
    how much test prop in the test 400?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    I'm goin off what my friend Told me to use. That's about what he does and he's gotten pretty good results
    did he mention anything about an AI?? like arimidex or aromasin ?

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    ah, so the doses were 300 and 400... absolutely no reason to go up in dose at this point. This is your first cycle and the 600/week you are currently running is more than enough. You are right in that time frame where your most noticable gains will occur and the added gear is not nesseccary. Pin .75mL twice per week of the 400

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    I'm goin off what my friend Told me to use. That's about what he does and he's gotten pretty good results
    dont go by "whats others see results from"... doesnt mean its right...

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    I posted in that thread. Still learning how to use this. Appreciate any input though

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    Cool was told to use the two bottle of 400 then work back down slowly with the 300. Sound about right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Cool was told to use the two bottle of 400 then work back down slowly with the 300. Sound about right ?
    it would be better to just run the sus300 for the whole cycle...

    are you using an AI??

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    And the AI read about. Is that estrogen blocker?

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    The only thing is I like the sus300 by I have two bottles of test 400 also

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    I'm not using an AI just the test

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    The only thing is I like the sus300 by I have two bottles of test 400 also
    save the test 400 for another time.

    and yes, the AI is to block the conversion to estrogen, which you should already be running.....

    how long are you planning on running this cycle for?

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    start using an AI ASAP

    say Arimidex at .25mg EOD

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    Test 400 contains 25mg propinate 187 Cypionate 189 enan

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    Was gonna use all 4 bottles at 4-5 weeks each

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Test 400 contains 25mg propinate 187 Cypionate 189 enan
    you could run that at 2x .75ml /week which would give you 600mg/week same as pinning sus300 2x/week

    wouldn't make any difference, next time just go with a single ester like test e or c...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Was gonna use all 4 bottles at 4-5 weeks each
    12 weeks is long enough, you will find the gains will slow down around week 8-10..

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    Appreciate very much. Definitely need to start the AI though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Appreciate very much. Definitely need to start the AI though?
    yes

    go with arimidex at .25mg EOD

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    I don't understand what you are doing. Slow down and give stats and the explain the cycle....crazy mike


    sorry I edit. ...up to speed now....cm

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    You need to stop listening to your friend and spend more time learning about the dangerous drugs you are using!!!

    Without an AI, your estrogen will elevate and significantly increase your risk for heart attack, deep vein thrombosis, peripheral vascular disease, stroke, and certain cancers.

    You shouldn't be taking any of these drugs until you are better educated.

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    How tall are you?

    What is your bodyfat based on this pic?

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