Advice on cutting cycle

**Energy Guy** · 04-01-2013, 12:08 PM

Currently, about to start a cutting cycle of Test Prop 100, Tren A 100, & Masteron Prop 100. Need advice on proper mg of each. Also, if and when I should boost or decrease each supp (what weeks). I know it's going to be EOD, but have never done a cutting cycle of this gear so not sure about proper volumes. Have HCG and Nolva to run, as well. Which of those would you recommend for during and which one for post? Is Arimidex a better option than Nolva with this stack? I'm 6'3" and weigh 239lbs. I have done numerous bulking cycles and a couple of cutting. Just never this particular stack. I've already cut down from just under 270lbs just by dieting. Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help.

**Capebuffalo** · 04-01-2013, 12:17 PM

What is your bf%?
Your 38 yrs old?
Where are you trying to get?

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 04-01-2013, 12:18 PM

What is your BF%?

Nolva is a SERM, Dex is an AI.

**ChiveOn** · 04-01-2013, 02:03 PM

I'm doing almost the same cycle. I'm going to run prop at 250mg/wk, tren ace at 500mg/wk, and mast at 500mg/wk, along with T3 at 100mcg/day.
Pinning ED
Prop 35mg
Ace 70mg
Mast 70mg

With the mast especially, you need to have pretty low body fat. Being at 240? That's pretty damn huge for a cycle like this

**Energy Guy** · 04-01-2013, 04:05 PM

Yes, I'm 38yrs old. Goal is to get as lean as possible; preferably around 6% BF. BF is currently around 13%.

ChiveOn, my concern with your dose is keeping my Test level up with twice as much Tren . That said, I'm not familiar with Prop or Mast; which is the reason for me seeking advice. From the sounds of each question, I may have more work to do dieting prior to starting this cycle.

Btw, thanks to each of you for answering.

**Bio-Active** · 04-01-2013, 04:34 PM

What's your cycle experience?

**ChiveOn** · 04-01-2013, 05:00 PM

I'm at about 13% bf as well and I'm thinking with a good diet and training 8% is reachable. 6% probably not. Prop is jut a short test ester, if you're going tren ace and mast prop its just keeping them all at a quick kick in period. See results faster, pin more often, clear your system quicker.
The lower your body fat the better mast will be. It's more for muscle density, hardness, and vascularity. You won't really gain much on it.
As far as tren being twice as high? That's the idea. Tren is 5x more anabolic than test, aka, 100mg tren = 500mg test (in theory) so if you keep your test dose low (200mg or so) it's purely for TRT reasons. You're letting the tren do a bulk of the work. The test is just replacing what your body is making when it shuts down. 500mg of tren may be a bit much for a first time. It's just what I'm using. You may wanna stick to 300-350mg range

**ChiveOn** · 04-01-2013, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

What's your cycle experience?

^^ this especially. Your questions make it seem like your fairly new to the world of AAS, no offense, and this is a big cycle for anyone not experienced or ready to be pinning every day.

**Energy Guy** · 04-01-2013, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChiveOn

^^ this especially. Your questions make it seem like your fairly new to the world of AAS, no offense, and this is a big cycle for anyone not experienced or ready to be pinning every day.

Honestly, no offense taken. My AAS experience has only been with bulking cycles over the last 3yrs. Hence the reason, I was just under 270 with slightly higher BF than I have currently. My question regarding Test levels stem from having taken Tren E with Test and then having my Test levels tested. My levels during one particular cycle were lower than desired. That said, it was "recommended" that I up my Test levels quite a bit for that particular cycle to ensure they stayed high enough.

Quite honestly, my genetics are such that AAS haven't been on my radar until they were recommended 3yrs ago. I could skip working out for 6mos and look very similar to what I do now with little to no mass or BF difference. I have several friends in the BB arena that have been on me for years to start. I fought the notion until I reali*ed the potential as I age. I've considered doing a show in the future; which is why I'm trying to get as "educated" as I can until then. As for pinning every day, I have no problem with that; especially at the dosages you are recommending.

I do appreciate you taking your time to give advice.

**Bio-Active** · 04-01-2013, 06:30 PM

The cut will be determined by your nutrition not the compounds you are running though some compounds are more noticeable if you are lean you can bulk or cut on almost any compound

**ChiveOn** · 04-01-2013, 06:59 PM

Of course! We're all here to help and learn. If you got bloods back and had lower Test levels then you can go ahead and run test higher. Maybe equal them out around 350mg or so. That part you'll have to do some extra research and/or experience with. But tren especially, you can bulk or lean. Same with test. As Jim pointed out, and I'm sure you know having cycles before, diet will be the main component as to the results you get.
Mast is really only useful in a cutting cycle since the results are best associated with a low body fat.
And I'm sure you know you'll have to run an AI along with prolactin control throughout?

**Energy Guy** · 04-01-2013, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by ChiveOn

Of course! We're all here to help and learn. If you got bloods back and had lower Test levels then you can go ahead and run test higher. Maybe equal them out around 350mg or so. That part you'll have to do some extra research and/or experience with. But tren especially, you can bulk or lean. Same with test. As Jim pointed out, and I'm sure you know having cycles before, diet will be the main component as to the results you get.
Mast is really only useful in a cutting cycle since the results are best associated with a low body fat.
And I'm sure you know you'll have to run an AI along with prolactin control throughout?

Yes. Dex is on its way.