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Thread: Testosterone only Cycle, no cycle, weak cycle, 2 weeker, WIN + Test?

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    Testosterone only Cycle, no cycle, weak cycle, 2 weeker, WIN + Test?

    Hey guys, I was just wondering if Finasteride does in fact work for hair loss prevention, on and off cycle? My dad's got his hair at age 53, not bald, but he's got thin hair, like an outline kinda of the MPB but he's got hair ontop of it which is thin but still hair and he can grow it out and shit tooo its not like the last scraps before the MPB fully takes over, if that makes sense..

    First off is there such thing as a weak cycle? I think they all affect you HTPA equally in shutdown, probably some more than others but even Anavar has been shown to shutdown (see : http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UVn54heR-n8)

    Stats:
    Age: 20 turning 21 this year
    Weight: 181-185 lbs
    Height: 6'1''
    Bodytype: Mesomorph/endormorph mostly meso tho
    BF: around 15%-17%
    cycling history below.

    I'm not necessarily planning on cycling test, my roomie is and i'm kind of excited to join him but I know he's pretty close to his genetic potential and I know I have a longs way to go. It would be pretty fun to blow up real quick and get jacked but there's no point if i'm going to **** myself over for the rest of my life.

    I'll be excited and always looking forward to cycling later on around 25-26 but maybe by then I wont even need to.


    This is basically a confession of my personal inner conflict with wanting to cycle. I ran a epivar 5 week cycle, at 40/40/40/40/60 i PCT'd with Erase (don't even know if it works), D-aspartic acid, Tribulus, fenugreek. I felt great throughout my pct, even better than on that PH cycle.

    I also have ran Anavar at 50/50/50/50/50/60 then PCTd with Arimidex (droplet form, 2-3 drops a day for a month) felt pretty good after. Right now I feel kinda weird though, sometimes when I go to f*ck the first time I'm with the girl I'll be really hard, we'll **** (i usually go for like 10-15 mins but recently it's been far less like 5 mins, or i'll just go until i'm limp and I don't even blow a load :S).

    I bought 2 bottles of 90 tabs 25mg winstrol but I haven't taken any and they've been sitting in my room, might just flush them or if my roomie wants them he can have them. I also have been thinking of running a test E or C cycle at 400mg/w for 8 weeks with arimidex and then HCG , clomid, arim for PCT but I really don't know if I want to after reading the CYCLES GONE WRONG FOR THE YOUNG stories it kinda turns me off a lot from the idea, and there's no point cause afterward when I go to train i wont' nearly feel as great and i'll feel like I wont be able to make gains without it.

    So there's my little dilemma.

    Oh and training/ diet: I follow a very paleo diet, eating mostly 4-5 times a day, fruit, veges, protein. My carbs come from fruit, my veges give me fiber, no grains, I get my protein from lean sources, salmon, chicken, turkey, sometimes beef (steak or lean ground beef), never pork. I have protein mostly at every meal, and my fats come from nuts (walnuts, pumpkin seeds, etc.) and olive oil or butter, or animal fat.

    Training, I do pretty intense exercises, usually mixing it up but with big movements like Squats, deadlifts, rackpulls, and Bench press/dumbbell press I try to keep it fairly consistent week to week. I also train about 3-5 times a week depending on how busy I am. I warm up with some cardio 5-10 mins get the blood pumping, then I do my lift 1-1:15 hour, then another 15-20 mins on exercise bike or incline walk with HIIT, If I have the opportunity I do Sprints/jogs then bike 10 mins.

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    Don't do any more cycles of anything! and go get bloodwork. and by the way, you PCT protocol on all your "cycles" is far from par so once again, I strongly suggest you get bloodwork.
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    I'm planning on doing bloodwork regardless. And yeah I know that PCT is whack but I've learned my lesson.

    That's funny you should say that, I am debating the test cyp only cycle, at 250mg/week, I am also contemplating including 25mg of win for the first 4 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosh73 View Post
    I'm planning on doing bloodwork regardless. And yeah I know that PCT is whack but I've learned my lesson. No you havent, you said you read the posts about cycles gone wrong for the young, well, read it again.

    That's funny you should say thatIts not funny and I wasnt joking. You need bloodwork, I am debating the test cyp only cycle, at 250mg/week, I am also contemplating including 25mg of win for the first 4 weeks.
    Because if you had learned your lesson, you would NOT be contemplating another cycle of anything. I dont know how to say this without sounding to harsh but COME ON! If you did any research at all, you would know thats a bad idea. 1. you should not be cycling period! 2. 250mg/week is barely higher than trt/hrt dose so you would essentially be shutting yourself down for no reason 3. Anything you have thats AAS related, I suggest you get rid of it or you will be tempted. I also suggest you hit up the nutrition forum here, post your diet and make changes accordingly..

    My $.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyE View Post

    Because if you had learned your lesson, you would NOT be contemplating another cycle of anything. I dont know how to say this without sounding to harsh but COME ON! If you did any research at all, you would know thats a bad idea. 1. you should not be cycling period! 2. 250mg/week is barely higher than trt/hrt dose so you would essentially be shutting yourself down for no reason 3. Anything you have thats AAS related, I suggest you get rid of it or you will be tempted. I also suggest you hit up the nutrition forum here, post your diet and make changes accordingly..

    My $.02
    Okay I see where you're coming from but when I read most threads regarding pct and all that stuff it says it is easier to come back from a cycle of you pct correctly (a lot also mention using HCG during cycle) and even so at 250-350mg/wk I would be having test in my system during eq cycle which is not too harsh would help me gain that lean quality muscle then ill get off for a while probably summer until winter. Or maybe I won't even cycle again there's no point if I got that good gain from the test/eq cycle.

    My 2cents. I'd like a couple inputs here and not just "no you're retarded don't cycle ur dumb. Go to --> nutrition forum." I'm following good nutrition protocol approved by a trainer who has education in: Kinesiology, nutrition, personal training, paleo seminars, etc.) he's been practicing his career for over 30+ years making 80/h and works full time.

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    He also agrees I can get gains without it easily. Which I will be doing too but I'm just curious about cycling right now

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