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    New to this website, seeking some guidance.

    Hey guys, so my name is Chris I'm new.
    But I have some questions.
    So this summer ill be leaving for Kansas to be playing college football.
    And I'm not small.
    I just want/need to get a little bigger.
    I'm 6'1 and barley at 190
    I can bench 230
    I'm not sure about any other stats you might need.
    My goal is to get to a solid 205, 215 maybe.
    I'm 18 so I realize that to some of you, I'm too young.
    But I'm pretty sold on steroids . I was wondering if anyone could help me and give me some information on what to use, how and why. I would love to hear everyone's answers.
    Thanks guys

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    Dont cycle, bad idea at your age

    Give this a read

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UVp4JlfPzHQ

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    Hi Chris.

    Can we take a look at your diet and training routine before talking about AAS?

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    I know this seems to be a standard respose here... But you ARE too young. It seems like a good answer for what you are looking for but steriods are very short sighted at your age and will most likely lead to issues in the future

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    I don't want to come off rude, I know y'all are helping. And I know I'm too young.
    But it's for college football, it's everything I've worked for.
    I want to maximize my potential because after college my favorite thing in the world will be a memory.
    I plan on experimenting either way.


    My diet is low carbs high protein and low sugar.
    Water all day everyday.
    And a lot of fruit and vegetables.
    Workout I lift 3-4 days a week
    And cardio everyday.
    About an hour per workout.

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    OK, Chris. I understand. Can you expand a little more on your goals? And your diet is rather vague. We need to know more before we can accurately help.

    Thanks.

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    Goals would probally be bigger arms
    Stronger legs
    Bigger chest
    And more muscle mass in general.
    A good 15-20 pounds of solid muscle but don't want to gain much fat. (I know that's hard to do)


    And my diet all I eat is a lot of chicken, rice, protein shakes and salads.
    And occasionally a hamburger. No sodas or juice.

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    What's your Tdee?
    What is your macro breakdown?

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    Tdee = 3135

    And I couldn't say my macro breakdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaleCheerleader View Post
    I don't want to come off rude, I know y'all are helping. And I know I'm too young.
    But it's for college football, it's everything I've worked for.
    I want to maximize my potential because after college my favorite thing in the world will be a memory.
    I plan on experimenting either way.


    My diet is low carbs high protein and low sugar.
    Water all day everyday.
    And a lot of fruit and vegetables.
    Workout I lift 3-4 days a week
    And cardio everyday.
    About an hour per workout.
    You relize fruit is high in sugar

    Lets try this list everything you ate yesterday.

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    Look for a video by Dave Tate about playing your ace card.
    I second lets see everything you ate yesterday

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    2 large salads w/ crutons with no dressing
    2 bannanas
    Some strawberries
    And 2 bottles of isopure

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaleCheerleader
    2 large salads w/ crutons with no dressing
    2 bannanas
    Some strawberries
    And 2 bottles of isopure
    You need to hit the diet forum. You will not grow with that nutrition program at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaleCheerleader View Post
    2 large salads w/ crutons with no dressing
    2 bannanas
    Some strawberries
    And 2 bottles of isopure
    No No No Not the 1st meal of the day.. I need everything you ate yesterday..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

    No No No Not the 1st meal of the day.. I need everything you ate yesterday..
    Umm...... Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    No No No Not the 1st meal of the day.. I need everything you ate yesterday..


    Lmao I know it's not a bulking diet
    And that's not helping too much.
    But I ship off in less than 3 months and I don't see myself gaining 20 pounds of muscle before than.
    I know my diets going to have to change soon.

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    You are not going to gain 20lbs of muscle with or without aas. Again you need to hit the nutrition forum and get this sorted out

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    I'm really just looking for as much as I can get before June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaleCheerleader
    I'm really just looking for as much as I can get before June.
    Still nutrition will determine your gains not aas

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    Yeah I totally understand my diet needs to change for gaining muscle.
    But, I was pretty set on aas to aid me as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaleCheerleader
    Yeah I totally understand my diet needs to change for gaining muscle.
    But, I was pretty set on aas to aid me as well.
    Hit the nutrition forum and thank me later. You are not ready for aas and there will hurt you more than help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Hit the nutrition forum and thank me later. You are not ready for aas and there will hurt you more than help.
    Listen to jim....You are too young truthfully (I'm 21 and haven't used any aas yet) but it seems like you're set on your decision for football which I can understand. Either way bro, if you were to run a cycle you would lose all of your gains without a proper diet, nor would those gains be optimal. My advice would be to hold out, but if you go through with it make sure you eat more than two salads a day. Best of luck bro, keep us updated

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    What position do you play?
    Even if your the kicker you have to eat more than that
    Wtf are coaches teaching you guys today?

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    Eat this for 3 months and see what happens

    Meal (1)

    2 whole eggs
    5 egg whites
    2/3 cup oatmeal (dry measurement)
    1 large orange
    1 large banana
    1/3 cup unsweetened fruit juice
    2 tsp. natural peanut butter


    Meal (2)

    1 scoop whey protein isolate (recommended: IsoM3)
    8 ounces skim milk
    1/2 cup oatmeal (dry measurement)
    12 large strawberries
    8 almonds


    Meal (3)

    5.25oz. chicken breast
    1 1/2 large pita
    1 3/4 cup sliced apple
    Unlimited vegetables


    Meal (4)

    1 1/4 scoop whey protein isolate (recommended: IsoM3)
    8 ounces skim milk
    1 1/2 large banana
    1 tbsp. almond butter


    Meal (5)

    5.75oz. salmon
    1 2/3 cup rice (cooked)
    1 tsp. flaxseed oil
    Unlimited vegetables


    Meal (6)

    1 1/2 scoop whey protein isolate (recommended: IsoM3)
    10 ounces skim milk
    1/3 cup oatmeal (dry measurement)
    2 tsp. extra virgin olive oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    What position do you play?
    Even if your the kicker you have to eat more than that
    Wtf are coaches teaching you guys today?

    During the season out coaches usually make us eat peanut butter and honey sandwhiches (like 3 a day)
    And than a big lunch and dinner.
    But right now, the ont reason I'm not eating as much is because I'm trying to cut a little.
    I don't always eat like this.

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    Did the NCAA loosen up or something? When I played I got tested multiple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo
    Eat this for 3 months and see what happens

    Meal (1)

    2 whole eggs
    5 egg whites
    2/3 cup oatmeal (dry measurement)
    1 large orange
    1 large banana
    1/3 cup unsweetened fruit juice
    2 tsp. natural peanut butter

    Meal (2)

    1 scoop whey protein isolate (recommended: IsoM3)
    8 ounces skim milk
    1/2 cup oatmeal (dry measurement)
    12 large strawberries
    8 almonds

    Meal (3)

    5.25oz. chicken breast
    1 1/2 large pita
    1 3/4 cup sliced apple
    Unlimited vegetables

    Meal (4)

    1 1/4 scoop whey protein isolate (recommended: IsoM3)
    8 ounces skim milk
    1 1/2 large banana
    1 tbsp. almond butter

    Meal (5)

    5.75oz. salmon
    1 2/3 cup rice (cooked)
    1 tsp. flaxseed oil
    Unlimited vegetables

    Meal (6)

    1 1/2 scoop whey protein isolate (recommended: IsoM3)
    10 ounces skim milk
    1/3 cup oatmeal (dry measurement)
    2 tsp. extra virgin olive oil
    Hey Cape. What's the macro breakdown for this? Maybe that would help him understand better.

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    Cheerleading or football come on bro. Your diet is a wreck.. I wish you the best.

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