Test enathate first cycle

**stackedbro** · 04-03-2013, 09:48 PM

Not sure if this is the right place to post this.

But I'm about to do my first cycle of test enathate
I was planning on doing 250mg/week that's what my doctor recommended me to 250 instead of 500mg which I originally planned on
I'm not sure if 250 is enough
I'm 5 8 175 lbs 8% bf 22 years old
I've been lifting since I've been about 14 got serious with the diet 3 years ago
And now I want to put on some more weight
I want to compete and don't have the size I want
I would pct nolva 40/40/20/20 and don't want to use ai or hcg just to see how my body reacts but I have extra nolva in case of gyno signs
I will be eating 300 grams of protein 600 grams of carbs 200 grams of fat
All lean meat complex carbs and will have 7-8 meals
I don't want to hear I'm too young because I'm doing it regardless. But I do need help on if 250 a week is worth it. My natural test is already at 990 ng/dl.

**stackedbro** · 04-03-2013, 09:51 PM

Also it would be a 10 week cycle

I'm thinking of possibly doing 250 every 5th day to make it a shorter higher doses cycle.

**austinite** · 04-03-2013, 09:53 PM

Your doctor? You have got to be kidding me bro. Your "doctor" should lose his license instantly.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-03-2013, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Your doctor? You have got to be kidding me bro. Your "doctor" should lose his license instantly.

I wrote my opinion and erased it three times..lol Time for bed..

**warmouth** · 04-03-2013, 09:55 PM

Dude! No way a real doctor would do this. Are you sure it isnt your way of getting advice? If so, we can give you advice since you seem deadset on this. Stickies, stickies, stickies.

**warmouth** · 04-03-2013, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

I wrote my opinion and erased it three times..lol Time for bed..

There is a sleep ban in Canada. Did you not get the memo?

**austinite** · 04-03-2013, 10:01 PM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...52#post6317152

**havanakid** · 04-03-2013, 10:17 PM

If your natural test is really at 990 then thank god and train naturally for at least another 3 years.After that get bloodwork done again and see where youre at.Diet may be your only problem.If youre not getting where you want at for example 3500 calories a day then go to 4000.Enjoy your naturally high levels of test and youll make plenty gains without the need of any anabolics for years to come.Be safe.Good luck.

**stackedbro** · 04-03-2013, 10:47 PM

My doctor didnt reccomend it. I asked his advice because I was set on doing it. And he told me that 250 would give you enough gains your looking for.

**stackedbro** · 04-03-2013, 10:50 PM

Austinite no one gave me an answer except dont take it. I'm physically ready and most importantly mentally ready.

**austinite** · 04-03-2013, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by stackedbro

Austinite no one gave me an answer except dont take it. I'm physically ready and most importantly mentally ready.

Physically ready? Get some xrays done to see if you're fully developed and then tell me you're ready.

**Tron3219** · 04-03-2013, 11:20 PM

Fvck the x rays and what ur "doctor said"...I wanna know how the hell ur gonna eat 5400 cals and not gain weight! I'd go get checked for a tape worm son.

-Chomp Chomp Chomp-Clink Clink Clink-

**stackedbro** · 04-03-2013, 11:57 PM

Austinite- I actually have got my growth plates check my epiphyseal plates have been replaced my lines so I am done growing and have been the same height for about 5 years. That's not an issue.

Tron3219- I have tried force feading. I gain weight obviously but it's not good weight. I want to stay at 10-12 percent max while bulking. And my body I feel like plateaus with muscle gaining. It might just be my natural potential.

I am not here to argue why you guys think I should/shouldn't use test but I want to know if 250 mg is gonna work. I realize at my age I will bounce back more easily than someone who has a lower test level also.

**austinite** · 04-03-2013, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by stackedbro

Austinite- I actually have got my growth plates check my epiphyseal plates have been replaced my lines so I am done growing and have been the same height for about 5 years. That's not an issue.

Tron3219- I have tried force feading. I gain weight obviously but it's not good weight. I want to stay at 10-12 percent max while bulking. And my body I feel like plateaus with muscle gaining. It might just be my natural potential.

I am not here to argue why you guys think I should/shouldn't use test but I want to know if 250 mg is gonna work. I realize at my age I will bounce back more easily than someone who has a lower test level also.

ok, I guess I have no choice but to take your word for it.

250mg of test is a waste of time, and your doc is a COMPLETE MORON. Seriously, COMPLETE MORON. Had to say it twice. You are shutting yourself down and you wont see any results. At 990 test naturally... I wouldnt touch ANYTHING. Your problem is food, not lack of gear.

thats my advice.

**stackedbro** · 04-04-2013, 12:31 AM

Austinite thanks for that input. But I do eat clean weigh all my good out. I bulk up to 185 at 5'8 is pretty much where I stop before the rest Is just fat. I need something to push me to the next level. So is 500 mg ok with just the nolva for pct. I know everywhere says that you need an ai and hcg but the guy I get it from and many peers who have cycled before say its unnecessary for just test. Also I want to see how my body reacts to test alone

**havanakid** · 04-04-2013, 01:09 AM

Of course you need an ai bro.Testosterone aromitizes to estrogen especially at higher levels an ai is a must and hcg if you can get it helps greatly.You gotta stop listening to your "peers" buddy.This is where youll get the most honest help.

**stackedbro** · 04-04-2013, 02:16 AM

Havanakid my doctor also said to go the first time without it. So did my dealer. But my doctor also said to go 250mg so if I uped the dose I would probably do an ai and hcg . Couldn't I use nolva 20 mg eod to help with aromitization

**jaswave125** · 04-04-2013, 02:32 AM

Read more bro, you will see everything you need in this site, and 250mg of test is not totally a waste but you will gain more if you maximize your test dosage. Your young and have done a tremendous job in 3yrs of dieting imagine do it for 2more years then think about aas. Try altering your exercise and diet.

**songdog** · 04-04-2013, 06:31 AM

Ok bro you are not going to run a ai.So wat are you going to use to control water retenion and when your nipps start to swell and itch.Not only are you too young.Your knowledge is lacking.You go ahead and listen to those morons.And when you got to get Gyno surgery.Remember you were warned.Later bro.