Cycle planned Test/Tren/Var

**Antonious** · 04-03-2013, 10:27 PM

Cutting cycle, will add T3 if i can find it in tablet form
Age 26
230 lbs, 20% body fat
Training 3 years

Week 1-8 Test prop 100 mgs / week
Week 1-7 Tren ace 350 / week
Week 1-8 hCG shots 250 IU twice a week
Week 1-8 Anavar 100 mgs ED
Cabergoline 0.5 mg twice a week (tablet form) Monday 0.5, and Thursday 0.5 (1 mg total per week)

Upon completion of the cycle, I'll be blasting hCG 1,500 IU EOD for one week, then start PCT (one week after my last test prop pin)

PCT

Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20/20

This is my first cycle, and I decided to use tren a in low dosage. I know all the side effect, and in case if I can't take it I'll switch to test prop only cycle. My question is should I start blasting hCG lets say starting week 8, and go for 2 weeks with 1,500 IU EOD? Since its only one week between last pin and PCT. I also know my BF is on a higher side, will monitor BP regularly.

**FONZY007** · 04-03-2013, 10:30 PM

Why not just use the test only, your may gain 20lbs LBM with just that

**lifeofdefiance** · 04-03-2013, 10:34 PM

Too high of bodyfat for tren imo. Tren puts a lot of stress on your body, you want to be in optimal shape going into a tren cycle. I'd try to get down to 15% before using it. That being said, cycle looks fine overall. Similar to mine.

EDIT: I noticed you said it's your first cycle. I'd save the tren for later man. Just run a test cycle maybe with some var or dbol if you want.

**Antonious** · 04-04-2013, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

Why not just use the test only, your may gain 20lbs LBM with just that

I could, but decided to try tren because of its body recomp abilities.
I just saw AR-R carries T3, will order from him.

**Antonious** · 04-04-2013, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by lifeofdefiance

Too high of bodyfat for tren imo. Tren puts a lot of stress on your body, you want to be in optimal shape going into a tren cycle. I'd try to get down to 15% before using it. That being said, cycle looks fine overall. Similar to mine.

EDIT: I noticed you said it's your first cycle. I'd save the tren for later man. Just run a test cycle maybe with some var or dbol if you want.

I'll see how tren goes and if anything I'll do prop only cycle. Don't want to be bloated with dbol , which in return will also cause high BP I think.

**Antonious** · 04-07-2013, 05:12 PM

Do I need to run adex with this?

**tommygunn1980** · 04-07-2013, 05:18 PM

Test prop 100mgs a week? Prop needs to be injected eod

**austinite** · 04-07-2013, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by tommygunn1980

Test prop 100mgs a week? Prop needs to be injected eod

yeah...

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**BBJT200** · 04-07-2013, 05:19 PM

Probably no need for adex, but have it on hand just in case. everyone is different, some aromatize more than others

**Antonious** · 04-07-2013, 05:19 PM

Will be injecting prop 25mg eod

**lifeofdefiance** · 04-07-2013, 05:24 PM

im on 175 mg a week prop and im only taking adex .25mg eod... probably would be overkill for your at only 100 mg a week.

**ChiveOn** · 04-07-2013, 06:21 PM

I'd save tren for a few cycles down the road. If this is your first cycle you have a lot that your body has never had injected into it before. If you start getting sides ou can't handle how do you plan on knowing which compound it's coming from? E2 issues or is it prolactin?
HCG should be run throughout the cycle IMO. Helps speed recovery and maintain size of yer nutz.

**Antonious** · 04-07-2013, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by ChiveOn

I'd save tren for a few cycles down the road. If this is your first cycle you have a lot that your body has never had injected into it before. If you start getting sides ou can't handle how do you plan on knowing which compound it's coming from? E2 issues or is it prolactin?
HCG should be run throughout the cycle IMO. Helps speed recovery and maintain size of yer nutz.

I don't think e2 levels will rise because of only 100 mg test prop a week. And will be taking caber Starting week 1 to combat prolactin. hCG will be injected starting week 1 also. It's pretty simple cycle and at the same time not so simple because of tren..but low dosage of test (which should eliminate estrogen levels going up) evens out difficulty of the cycle and only have to worry about prolactin levels.

**U_MIRIN** · 04-07-2013, 10:36 PM

Whatever you do,make sure you cycle caber properly!

**cj111** · 04-07-2013, 10:46 PM

Whatever you do,make sure you cycle caber properly!

Just looking at your user name leaves a bad taste in my mouth

**Antonious** · 04-09-2013, 01:07 PM

Should I add 400 mg a week of Masteron prop for cutting purposes?
Make it
Test prop - 100 mg a week
Tren ace - 350 mg a week
Mast prop - 400 mg a week
Var - 100 mg a day

only thing worries me is additional risk of hair loss with mast

**largerthannormal** · 04-09-2013, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Antonious

Cutting cycle, will add T3 if i can find it in tablet form
Age 26
230 lbs, 20% body fat
Training 3 years

Week 1-8 Test prop 100 mgs / week ( Most would run this amount EOD)
Week 1-7 Tren ace 350 / week
Week 1-8 hCG shots 250 IU twice a week
Week 1-8 Anavar 100 mgs ED
Cabergoline 0.5 mg twice a week (tablet form) Monday 0.5, and Thursday 0.5 (1 mg total per week)

Upon completion of the cycle, I'll be blasting hCG 1,500 IU EOD for one week, then start PCT (one week after my last test prop pin)
Whats the point of a blast if you ben running all cycle?

PCT

Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20/20 ( double initial week of nolva)

This is my first cycle, and I decided to use tren a in low dosage. I know all the side effect, and in case if I can't take it I'll switch to test prop only cycle. My question is should I start blasting hCG lets say starting week 8, and go for 2 weeks with 1,500 IU EOD? Since its only one week between last pin and PCT. I also know my BF is on a higher side, will monitor BP regularly.

Originally Posted by Antonious

Should I add 400 mg a week of Masteron prop for cutting purposes? ( hell no)
Make it
Test prop - 100 mg a week
Tren ace - 350 mg a week
Mast prop - 400 mg a week
Var - 100 mg a day

only thing worries me is additional risk of hair loss with mast

Now lets start over.

20% bf you should not be doing a recomp, do a straight up cutter( i guess this based off your " tren recomp abilities remark"

I understand you see all the compounds above as "cutting compounds" one thing you must learn is cutting/bulking/recomping has little to no effect as to the compounds you are taking, it is 100% diet that depicts your end result

Next, even at a low dose of test you can shut down you natural test production, shut dow and shut down hard doesnt exist. ( although at 100 ew i have never heard anyone do this)

AI is always recommended in every cycle with test, Theres no way to tell if you will or will not need it based off you small dose of test for what reason I am unclear on in the firsts place of why such a small amount. only way to tell is blood work

AI and dose qty are based of standard test protocols and you are way out of standard.

For real , drop everything and up the test and head to the nutrition section

your PCT looks ok , HCG looks okay..