A Few General Questions

**Ochocinco** · 04-04-2013, 07:33 AM

Hello Everyone,
I have a few questions about a few different things. I read the post by Marcus and it really made me think but I still would like to know a few things in case I do decide to start cycling.
First Ill give my stats. Im 21, 6'3 and when im eating clean around 240 (goes alot higher when not clean).
I was planning on doing an anavar cycle as my first cycle.For cutting purposes. It seemed appealing because of the mild affects. But then my friend told me I should do dnp if I really wanted to lose fat. He also recommended clen . The things Im reading about dnp are very mixed. Some say to not even consider it but then I saw lyle mcdonald say it was safe if done properly. So im hoping someone can share their knowledge on these three products. I would be interested to know the pros and cons of each, how long cycles should be, if pcts are required, if i should combine them with anything. Also personal results from any of these products.
Any information and opinions are welcome. I understand even if someone says something rude or harsh it is probably just to help.
Thank You.

**austinite** · 04-04-2013, 07:37 AM

Welcome.

Thanks for taking Marcus' post in consideration. Certainly something to think long about.

What is your body fat percentage? At 6'3 240 (and sometimes a lot higher according to you), that's somewhat of an indication of high Body fat. Making anything you choose aside from diet and cardio, quite dangerous. For best results, it's always a good idea to bring your body to a "Ready" state naturally.

Best of luck.

**Ochocinco** · 04-04-2013, 07:45 AM

Hello,
I would like to start by saying thank you for replying quickly. My body fat % is about 17%. So if i choose one of these, say anavar , itll be too dangerous at this point? Could you explain more about what a "ready state" is?
Thank you.

**Fllifter** · 04-04-2013, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ochocinco

Hello,
I would like to start by saying thank you for replying quickly. My body fat % is about 17%. So if i choose one of these, say anavar , itll be too dangerous at this point? Could you explain more about what a "ready state" is?
Thank you.

Generally a ready state would be a soild foundation to work from, and around 15% Bf although some may disagree on that.

**austinite** · 04-04-2013, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Ochocinco

Hello,
I would like to start by saying thank you for replying quickly. My body fat % is about 17%. So if i choose one of these, say anavar , itll be too dangerous at this point? Could you explain more about what a "ready state" is?
Thank you.

If your BF is 17% then you're in pretty good shape. (Also very rare for a 240lb+ guy).

Probably won't see a whole lot of difference from var. AAS will work no matter what your BF is, but visible results are achieved at lower body fat percentages. This is why most users come back and say "This cycle did not work!" and are disappointed for wasting time and money.

Honestly, if your stats are accurate, there is no reason for this. You can accomplish a great deal naturally. At your age you already have plenty of testosterone flowing, why shut that down for minimal results? Instead, I would take advantage of what I have (which most people here don't have, you're lucky!) and I would consider an ECA stack and a diet evaluation by our pro's in the nutrition section.

Being "ready" would be to be fully developed, have a solid base to work off, know how to eat to grow/cut and not disregarding natural test levels.

**songdog** · 04-04-2013, 07:56 AM

At your age your endo system is still matureing.And introduceing aas into your body can have some serious side effects.Like ED no libdo depression.We already had a guy not long ago ran Var.He now has ED problems.Just beacuse Var is said to be mild.They are not talking about the effects it will have on your body.They are rating it against other compounds.As far as strength.

**Ochocinco** · 04-04-2013, 08:01 AM

Thank you austinite, fllifter, songdog.
I think I will wait a while before I start cycling. Everyone has been very helpful

**austinite** · 04-04-2013, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Ochocinco

Thank you austinite, fllifter, songdog.
I think I will wait a while before I start cycling. Everyone has been very helpful

Very powerful words and very rare. Good for you buddy. Please stick around and I really would love to see you in the nutrition section, I'll follow you there and help you out if you post your current diet there.

**Ochocinco** · 04-04-2013, 10:15 AM

I will definitely become more active on these forums once I finish some school assignments. Took me a while to find the nutrition section (I found a recipe section and realized it wasnt the kind of recipes I was thinking of lol) but so far it looks really helpful. Thank you again.