How would you run a test e/ tren e/ prop/ deca cycle?

[faite]

13 weeks

1-13 test 600
1-6 prop 500
7-13 deca 500
1-13 tren 300

Will be my 1st time using tren in a cycle and didnt wanna do a high dosage just to see what its like.

This cycle look ok?

Thanks for any help.

[austinite]

Very poor cycle proposal, for critique, Please list the following...

Age: 26
Weight:
Height:
Body Fat percentage (most important):
Years in training:
Cycle history:
Goal for this cycle:

[songdog]

This is a nitemare

[Granovich]

why deca and tren ??
why would anyone need that much doses and compounds ?
if its first time using tren then do test p / tren ace only.... its very powerful ( you need many years and cycles under your belt before trying tren )

[faite]

Very poor cycle proposal, for critique, Please list the following...

Age: 26
Weight:
Height:
Body Fat percentage (most important):
Years in training:
Cycle history:
Goal for this cycle:

Why is it bad, I've seen lots of threads where ppl log similar cycles with great results? Only thing I may adjust is the deca

This is a nitemare

Why?

Many say dont run 2 19 nors.You could havr problem.But some guys have.Not me yet.Coming soon.

This is a quote from you on almost an identical cycle only diff. being the deca lol

why deca and tren ??
why would anyone need that much doses and compounds ?
if its first time using tren then do test p / tren ace only.... its very powerful ( you need many years and cycles under your belt before trying tren )

Deca would be the only thing I'm considering getting rid of, is 4 compounds considered a lot? Didn't think it was that much.
Will be my 1st time using tren and the reason for such low dosages.

I'll be running tren e and test e no matter what was just wondering how I should go about with the other 2 compounds.

Thanks again.

[knuckles69]

If I were trying tren for the first time I would only use test e and tren e so I knew what tren did to my body and then maybe the next cycle start playing with other compounds

[Times Roman]

13 weeks

1-13 test 600
1-6 prop 500 - is this supposed to be a "front load"?
7-13 deca 500 - why 2 19 nor compounds?
1-13 tren 300

Will be my 1st time using tren in a cycle and didnt wanna do a high dosage just to see what its like.

This cycle look ok?

Thanks for any help.

thoughts in RED

[faite]

If I were trying tren for the first time I would only use test e and tren e so I knew what tren did to my body and then maybe the next cycle start playing with other compounds

Theyre both long esters though and I'm not going to get the effects until later in the cycle, thats why I want to open up with the prop.

[faite]

thoughts in RED

Ive never front loaded, prop was just to get the effects of the short ester early.

When I was researching this cycle almost everyone of them included deca in it. Pretty much the only reason.

So get rid of the deca all together?

[knuckles69]

Theyre both long esters though and I'm not going to get the effects until later in the cycle, thats why I want to open up with the prop.

Sure I understand the prop to get you started but your only going to feel and understand the effects and sides of tren when your not mixing with other compounds. IMO I'd drop the deca till your more 'acquainted' with tren and test on their own

[austinite]

No AI, No hCG , No PCT. Unnecessary mix of esters, no prolactin blocker. This is a recipe for disaster.

Want more reasons? I can throw in about 4 more.

[faite]

No AI, No hCG , No PCT. Unnecessary mix of esters, no prolactin blocker. This is a recipe for disaster.

Want more reasons? I can throw in about 4 more.

Want to know why no1 brought up AI, hcg, or pct? Because that wasn't my question.

Figured it would be common sense to assume I had that part down if it wasn't included.

Stop jumping to conclusions and either give some advice on the cycle on what you think should be removed or added.
Like others have instead of not adding anything helpful.
I'll be running aroma throughout with clomid and nolva for pct not that it matters because it had nothing to do with my question.

Not trying to be rude to you just want you to offer something positive instead of nothing at all.

[austinite]

Want to know why no1 brought up AI, hcg , or pct? Because that wasn't my question.

Figured it would be common sense to assume I had that part down if it wasn't included.

Stop jumping to conclusions and either give some advice on the cycle on what you think should be removed or added.
Like others have instead of not adding anything helpful.
I'll be running aroma throughout with clomid and nolva for pct not that it matters because it had nothing to do with my question.

Not trying to be rude to you just want you to offer something positive instead of nothing at all.

I'll offer positive advice when I know exactly what you're doing. If you want experienced users to spend their time helping you, then you need to spend some time and propose a full and complete cycle for critique. Otherwise, if you half-ass it, you will get half-assed responses.

It's the way of life.

[faite]

I'll offer positive advice when I know exactly what you're doing. If you want experienced users to spend their time helping you, then you need to spend some time and propose a full and complete cycle for critique. Otherwise, if you half-ass it, you will get half-assed responses.

It's the way of life.

Experienced users are chiming in with critique and offering helpful advice. You're the only one making a big deal about it ;/

Dunno what you mean its the way of life because obviously it isnt lol.

[austinite]

Experienced users are chiming in with critique and offering helpful advice. You're the only one making a big deal about it ;/

Good luck.

[ScotchGuard02]

IMO, adding Tren to a cycle automatically makes it a heavy cycle. You should list your complete cycle, including, AI, PCT, & Prolactin control. My second cycle of Tren messed me up for a long time. You should list your entire cycle and let the members look it over.

[faite]

IMO, adding Tren to a cycle automatically makes it a heavy cycle. You should list your complete cycle, including, AI, PCT, & Prolactin control. My second cycle of Tren messed me up for a long time. You should list your entire cycle and let the members look it over.

What happened with your cycle?

I think i've got it down to this:

Test P Wk 1-4 12-14 mg 75 eod
Test E wk 1-14 200 wk
Tren E wk 1-14 400 wk

aromasin 25 mg every 3 days

nolva and clomid for pct


edit: dropped deca completely

[shishir17]

What happened with your cycle?

I think i've got it down to this:

Test P Wk 1-4 12-14 mg 75 eod
Test E wk 1-14 200 wk
Tren E wk 1-14 400 wk

arimidex 25 mg every 3 days

nolva and clomid for pct


edit: dropped deca completely

What's ur goal---> Bulking or Lean Gaining

This cycle is based on Lean Gaining it's ur wish if u want to follow it or not. Its just an advice and I don't want to answer any other person apart from OP.

Drop Test P or Test E anyone one these u don't need both save money on one.

13 weeks

Test P/Test E (any one) 200mg/week 1-13 weeks (My recommendation is to run Test P)
Tren A/Tren E (any one) 300mg/week 1-12 weeks (My recommendation is to run Tren A, increase the dose slowly and gradually no need to go high from the start its a tricky compound)
Boldi 600mg/week 1-12 weeks (U can run deca too and note u will make solid gains on it, but u will store more water on it than being on Bold but the gains will be lesser than Deca)

Add Anavar at 30-40 mg/day for 6 weeks max if u want too.

GOOD LUCK

[marcus300]

You need to answer post 2

[clarky.]

What happened with your cycle?

I think i've got it down to this:

Test P Wk 1-4 12-14 mg 75 eod
Test E wk 1-14 200 wk
Tren E wk 1-14 400 wk

arimidex 25 mg every 3 days

nolva and clomid for pct


edit: dropped deca completely

Is that a typo 25mg adex e3d ?

[faite]

What's ur goal---> Bulking or Lean Gaining

This cycle is based on Lean Gaining it's ur wish if u want to follow it or not. Its just an advice and I don't want to answer any other person apart from OP.

Drop Test P or Test E anyone one these u don't need both save money on one.

13 weeks

Test P/Test E (any one) 200mg/week 1-13 weeks (My recommendation is to run Test P)
Tren A/Tren E (any one) 300mg/week 1-12 weeks (My recommendation is to run Tren A, increase the dose slowly and gradually no need to go high from the start its a tricky compound)
Boldi 600mg/week 1-12 weeks (U can run deca too and note u will make solid gains on it, but u will store more water on it than being on Bold but the gains will be lesser than Deca)

Add Anavar at 30-40 mg/day for 6 weeks max if u want too.

GOOD LUCK

Thanks for the advice on the cycle brother! Unfortunately I don't have any tren a and boldi on hand and a surplus of the others. I will keep it in mind for my next cycle, thanks again.

You need to answer post 2

Obviously I don't

[faite]

Is that a typo 25mg adex e3d ?

Yes, meant aromasin . Would that be ok at 25 e3d? Reason being they cam in 25 mg caps

[clarky.]

12.5 ed would be best mate.
Jimmy wrote a very good article on asin on page 2 on ma phone mate cant put a link up for you.

[faite]

12.5 ed would be best mate.
Jimmy wrote a very good article on asin on page 2 on ma phone mate cant put a link up for you.

Yeah I've heard 12.5 to 15. eod. The thing is these pills are capsules, not sure how breaking them things open is gonna work out.

So 25 every 3rd day is not a good idea haha?

[clarky.]

Have a read at jimmys thread really good the active half life of asin is 10 hours am sure if it was me i would run it ed.

[faite]

Have a read at jimmys thread really good the active half life of asin is 10 hours am sure if it was me i would run it ed.

Hey clarky,

I was doing some more research and found this on exemestane:

Exemestane's half life in the male body is actually very short (~9 hours) and it is quickly eliminated, however, since as soon as it enters your bloodstream it quickly destroys 80-90% of the aromatase enzymes present in your body, it is effective in maintaining significant reductions in estrogen for up to 72 hours after a single 25mg dose. Estrogen levels only begin to rise again after your body has begun to make new aromatase enzymes to replace the ones destro by exemestane.

There is a great study on the pharmacokinetics of exemestane in men which found the following:
-24 hours after one 25mg dose estrogen levels are reduced by 70-80%
-72 hours later estrogen levels are still 40% below baseline even though the drug itself is almost completely eliminated
-120 hours after initial dose estrogen levels return to baseline (without rebounding)

this means that you can find the timing and dosage that works for you, i've seen some guys recommend between 25mg ed and 12.5mg e4d, and you can see why both are effective while providing different levels of estrogen suppression, and it is this flexibility that makes exemestane such a versatile anti-e.

[redz]

So nothing for prolactin? you have a serious know it all attitude for someone who knows nothing about steroids . Also not running hcg with Tren is pretty dumb but hey you don`t need to answer our questions just listen to the random responses you get and trust them blindly.

[shishir17]

So nothing for prolactin? you have a serious know it all attitude for someone who knows nothing about steroids. Also not running hcg with Tren is pretty dumb but hey you don`t need to answer our questions just listen to the random responses you get and trust them blindly.

Why would he run HCG with Tren ??

[Bio-Active]

Why would he run HCG with Tren??

To maintain testicular function on cycle

[austinite]

shishir17, what experience could you possibly have at 21 years old?

Blind leading the blind here... This entire thread is a joke.

[redz]

Why would he run HCG with Tren ??

Stop giving advice!

[shishir17]

To maintain testicular function on cycle

What testicular function are you talking about??

[shishir17]

shishir17, what experience could you possibly have at 21 years old?

Blind leading the blind here... This entire thread is a joke.

Pls too correct u m 24 yo and lifting from 8 years and I am a competing athlete rest I don't feeling like answering you much so sorry I don't wanna waste my time and energy explaining the blinds..

[shishir17]

So nothing for prolactin? you have a serious know it all attitude for someone who knows nothing about steroids. Also not running hcg with Tren is pretty dumb but hey you don`t need to answer our questions just listen to the random responses you get and trust them blindly.

How can u judge the correct timing of his Libo/testicular crash during a cycle. Answer me this??

[redz]

How can u judge the correct timing of his Libo/testicular crash during a cycle. Answer me this??

You just run the hcg throughout to keep the balls healthy.

[austinite]

lol, obviously this guy hasn't had any panels. ever.

[Back In Black]

lol, obviously this guy hasn't had any panels. ever.

But he has run at least 5 crazy cycles and promotes d'bol as the best mass builder ever. Hope you TRT guys are ready for him in a few years!

[redz]

If you were born Feb 17 1990 how are you 24?

[shishir17]

You just run the hcg throughout to keep the balls healthy.

Without doing a blood work simply guiding to run hcg what if his balls fail after that??

[redz]

Without doing a blood work simply guiding to run hcg what if his balls fail after that??

What the hell are you smoking?