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    Question 2nd cycle. Suggestions, comments or concerns?

    Stats:
    32 years old
    200lbs
    5'11"
    BF 15-20%
    Training regularly for fitness and conditioning for 10+ years, bodybuilding and physique for last 8-12months. Spent last 5 months cutting and loosing fat/increasing strength and endurance dropping from 230-current 200lbs
    Healthy diet recent focus on intaking more cal/protien.

    First cycle was test 400 only for 12 weeks @ 400mg/wk. no pct .. Fortunate no bad sides gained aprox 20lbs kept about 15lbs. (This was a couple years ago before I quit smoking and became a bit heavy at 230lbs)

    Purposed 2nd cycle.... (Novice cycle 1 as found on this site with slight modifications)????
    Week 1-6 dbol undecided either 25 or 40mg ED
    Week 1-12 Test 400 either 400 or 500mg once per week
    Week 1-12 Arimidex .25md EOD
    Weeks 15-17 Nolvadex 40/40/20mg ED


    Would appreciate any suggestions on purposed dosages and/or constructive crit.

    Cheers
    Last edited by kashalp; 04-05-2013 at 10:06 PM.

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    Whats your BF percentage?
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    With no hcg on cycle I think 3 weeks of nolva is not enough.

    I'd run hcg 250iu 3 times per week on cycle and extend the nolva to at least 4 weeks.

    Read up on it but consider adding torem or clomid to pct as well.

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    Sorry forgot. Edited first post but BF is between 15-20%. unfortunately HCG is not available to me. Should I increase nolva to 4 weeks, maybe 40/40/20/20 or?? Also any suggestions on my posted dosages for both dbol and test?

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    Ok... You need to get your BF % checked. That's too big of a range to advise properly. 15 is fine. 20 is too much to cycle. Especially when bulking.

    If you're closer to 15, this is what I would do...

    Week 1 to 12 - Test E 500mg/week
    Week 1 to 4 - dbol @ 30mg ED
    Week 1 to 12 - hCG @ 250 iu twice weekly
    Week 1 to 14 - Adex @ 0.25 EOD

    PCT with Clomid 75/50/50/50 and nolva 40/20/20/20 (this starts 2 weeks after last test injection)

    hCG is available to everyone. Google it.
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    Test 400 is what I have on hand now. Any difference using that rather then test e as you suggested? Taken the test 400 before as noted and had no problems with any pain as other have reported. I choose the 400 over others basically for cost effective reasons, more mg per ml. Besides sust 250 I don't know if any other tests are available to me.

    Also can u explain the reasoning for suggesting a lower dose of 30 for the dbols rather then then the 40mg I was considering?

    Thanks for you input so far.

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    Lower dbol because it's your first run with it. I dont know whats in your test 400 but Im not a fan of blends. Whats in it? There are several ugls that make test 400 and theyre not all the same.
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    The test400 contains:

    175mg test cypionate
    175mg test enanthate
    50mg test propionate

    Again, I am debating between 400-500mg/wk with this blend. I've taken it before at 400mg/wk with good results but didn't not stack with the dbols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kashalp View Post
    The test400 contains:

    175mg test cypionate
    175mg test enanthate
    50mg test propionate

    Again, I am debating between 400-500mg/wk with this blend. I've taken it before at 400mg/wk with good results but didn't not stack with the dbols.
    If you had good results then don't change it.
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