Finally got it

[pumping_iron]

Ok so after a lot of thinking and digging today here's my first cycle:
Wk 1-15 Test C 500mg/wk
Wk 1-15 Anastrozole .25mg eod
Wk 13-17 HCG 1000iu's ew (2 - 500iu pins)
Wk 18-21 Nolva 40/20/20/20
Wk 18-21 Clomid 50/50/50/50

Good once and for all????

[MickeyKnox]

Ok so after a lot of thinking and digging today here's my first cycle:
Wk 1-15 Test C 500mg/wk
Wk 1-15 Anastrozole .25mg eod
Wk 13-17 HCG 1000iu's ew (2 - 500iu pins)
Wk 18-21 Nolva 40/20/20/20
Wk 18-21 Clomid 50/50/50/50

Good once and for all????

Begin your hCG wk 1.

[havanakid]

^^^^Times 2

[MistaHaze]

If this is your first cycle I would only run it for 12 weeks no need to stretch it out your first go round... Just my thoughts..

[austinite]

Ok so after a lot of thinking and digging today here's my first cycle:
Wk 1-15 Test C 500mg/wk
Wk 1-15 Anastrozole .25mg eod
Wk 13-17 HCG 1000iu's ew (2 - 500iu pins)
Wk 18-21 Nolva 40/20/20/20
Wk 18-21 Clomid 50/50/50/50

Good once and for all????

Is your AVI current with 10% BF?

I'd bring that cycle down to 12 weeks, and as Mickey said, hCG for all 12 weeks.

[pumping_iron]

Long esters usually take 14-16 days to kick on so why would I need th hcg the first 2 weeks? Just 3-12 following your methods then right? And the anastrozole all the way up to pct or just til the end of test? And do u rec the 2 wk window after injections to start pct? So many little things to this! But I'm gonna get it right before i start!

[MistaHaze]

Long esters usually take 14-16 days to kick on so why would I need th hcg the first 2 weeks? Just 3-12 following your methods then right? And the anastrozole all the way up to pct or just til the end of test? And do u rec the 2 wk window after injections to start pct? So many little things to this! But I'm gonna get it right before i start!

Test C is a longer ester but it kicks in around week six and from what I gather u usually stop making gains around the last 2 weeks or so. HCG should be used all the way through so you prevent all aspects of testicular atrophy.. And I would take your AI up until pct starts

[MickeyKnox]

Long esters usually take 14-16 days to kick on so why would I need th hcg the first 2 weeks? Just 3-12 following your methods then right? And the anastrozole all the way up to pct or just til the end of test? And do u rec the 2 wk window after injections to start pct? So many little things to this! But I'm gonna get it right before i start!

I use to subscribe to this theory as well. But Atomini change my mind on that when he pointed out, scientifically, that testosterone begins to change your hormones immediately. Just because it takes 4-6 swks for a long ester to saturate your blood serum or result in Testicular Atrophy immediately, doesn't necessarily mean it is not beginning to take effect. Its the little things that make the difference in a cycle.

Any jabroni with AAS, a diet, and drive, can build muscle. Its the ones that pay attention to the little things that build muscle with the least amount of problems.

AI up to PCT.

PCT begins 18 days after last pin.

[pumping_iron]

So hcg all the way to pct too then or just til last test pin?

[MickeyKnox]

So hcg all the way to pct too then or just til last test pin?

Run hCG to about 4 days before you begin PCT for optimum results.

[songdog]

Not being rude but a lil reading in the stickys wouldve explained all of this.Seems like you want to be spoon fed.

[Capebuffalo]

I use to subscribe to this theory as well. But Atomini change my mind on that when he pointed out, scientifically, that testosterone begins to change your hormones immediately. Just because it takes 4-6 swks for a long ester to saturate your blood serum or result in Testicular Atrophy immediately, doesn't necessarily mean it is not beginning to take effect. Its the little things that make the difference in a cycle.

Any jabroni with AAS, a diet, and drive, can build muscle. Its the ones that pay attention to the little things that build muscle with the least amount of problems.

AI up to PCT.

PCT begins 18 days after last pin.

Red above. I love that Mickey. Should be your new tag line IMO.

[Buster Brown]

Most guys run there Hcg @ 250 ius twice a week. I think 500 ius twice a week might be a little overkill.

[songdog]

That Mickey is the SH!T

[pumping_iron]

Not trying to be rude either but u gotta understand that there's a million and one differemt variations of how to run each little thing. I don't wanna be spoon fed lol believe me. I want to do this the best way to minimize problems if I wanna have kids and other things. If I'm asking u guys for advice on details like this maybe it means I value your opinion over the stickys on various forums... Maybe that's a little compliment..just a thought. I understand what to take and how much and why bit there's so many little details if u really wanna get knit picky with it and I feel that thats how ill run the smartest cycle. Id like to have it down pat before I start unlike 99% of guys who just start injecting then make posts on here like "just finished my first cycle of tren ,dbol and 1g of test. Been off for 4 weeks can't get hard what kind of pct should I take?"

[Capebuffalo]

Not trying to be rude either but u gotta understand that there's a million and one differemt variations of how to run each little thing. I don't wanna be spoon fed lol believe me. I want to do this the best way to minimize problems if I wanna have kids and other things. If I'm asking u guys for advice on details like this maybe it means I value your opinion over the stickys on various forums... Maybe that's a little compliment..just a thought. I understand what to take and how much and why bit there's so many little details if u really wanna get knit picky with it and I feel that thats how ill run the smartest cycle. Id like to have it down pat before I start unlike 99% of guys who just start injecting then make posts on here like "just finished my first cycle of tren,dbol and 1g of test. Been off for 4 weeks can't get hard what kind of pct should I take?"

I think Mickey has answered everything you have asked in a very complete manner. What else is it you are wanting to know?

[pumping_iron]

Yes he has. Probably one of the most informative and knowledgeable/helpful kind members on this board!!!

[Capebuffalo]

Yes he has. Probably one of the most informative and knowledgeable/helpful kind members on this board!!!

Agreed. You will do good to listen to what he tells you.

[MickeyKnox]

Thanks for the kind words guys.

OP, like Cape said, not much else to say here. Keep in mind no matter how much you try to micromanage your cycle, you will always discover alternative protocols, adjusting dosing amounts, and fine tuning diets that your body responds to better than others, are all part of the big AAS picture. The idea is to dial in your cycle as safe and responsible as you can on paper, then re evaluate as you progress through your cycle. This is the discovery portion of your cycle.

Good luck.

[Lunk1]

Cut your HCG in half and frontload your clomid with either 75 or 100 mg the first week!