Newbie User - Please Advise!

[ace123]

Starting cycle tomorrow, just wanted to make sure I have everything covered!

Gear
Royal Pharmaceuticals Sustabol Sustanon 250 - 1ml every 3 days (total 10ml)
Royal Pharmaceuticals Stanabol Stanozolol 100 - 1ml every 2 days starting week 2 (total 10ml)

Supplements
Optimum Nutrition Glutamine 1000mg - 2 capsules daily
Purus Labs Recycle - 4 capsules daily
Purus Labs Organ Shield - 2 capsules daily
Muscle Pharm Assault - 1 scoop before workout
BodyTech - Whey Tech Pro 24 - 1 scoop twice daily

Anything else I should add to this routine?

Thanks in advance.
-Ace

[austinite]

Welcome ace.

Please list the following:

• . Weight
• . Height
• . Body fat percentage (most important, please don't skip this one)
• . Cycle history if any
• . Years in training
• . Goal for this cycle
• . Plan for an AI and PCT if any

Thanks.

[ace123]

. Weight - 220lbs
. Height - 6'5"
. Body fat percentage (most important, please don't skip this one) - 18%
. Cycle history if any - none
. Years in training - 6 months (since high school)
. Goal for this cycle - bulk and tone
. Plan for an AI and PCT if any - none (please advise)

[crazy mike]

Welcome ace.

Please list the following:

• . Weight
• . Height
• . Body fat percentage (most important, please don't skip this one)
• . Cycle history if any
• . Years in training
• . Goal for this cycle
• . Plan for an AI and PCT if any

Thanks.

Hey do what she says or else !!....hahahaha but really, welcome looking forward to those stats. love that dress,...cm

[MistaHaze]

How old are u partner?

[austinite]

. Weight - 220lbs
. Height - 6'5"
. Body fat percentage (most important, please don't skip this one) - 18%
. Cycle history if any - none
. Years in training - 6 months (since high school)
. Goal for this cycle - bulk and tone
. Plan for an AI and PCT if any - none (please advise)

6 months in training since highschool? How old are you?

[ace123]

I am 26 years old.

[austinite]

How are you 26 and 6 months out of highschool? Just curious.

[ace123]

Sorry should have clarified - been out of high school since 18. I have been training for the last 6 months. I trained in high school from ages 14-18, and nothing in between till I started training 6 months ago. Hope this helps!

[kronik420]

you would want at least a few years of solid training before you hope on the gear, to allow your tendons and ligaments to strengthen, to build a solid base and to learn what training and diet best suits you..

you only have 1 vial of test and 1 vial of winny?? if that's the case then you don't have enough gear to be running a cycle anyways..

[MistaHaze]

IMHO I would not start that cycle for a number of reasons that I'm sure will be covered. Take some time to study up on this entire website and take some more time of weight training to build up the strength of your connective tissue so that no injuries occur due to the rapid muscle growth... Educate

[austinite]

OK. I understand now.

1. Six months of training is not enough time to jump into cycling. You could easily get injured.
2. Body fat is not terrible, but certainly wouldnt hurt to drop that a couple percentages so that you actually see the results.
3. Research more. Read up on AI's, hCG and PCT protocols. This will help you succeed in your first future cycle.

My advice would be to continue training hard, but eat even harder. Have the pro's in the nutrition section evaluate your diet. AAS will do nothing without proper nutrition. These are calculated formulas that you can learn all about in the diet section.

I know it's probably not what you wanted to hear, but I'd like to see you setup for success. Without the above, you'd be setting yourself up to fail. No sense in wasting time, money and risking injury.

Best of luck to you. You're in good hands here. Enjoy your stay.

[ace123]

Makes sense - will hold off for a bit.

Just for reference:
Austinite - what body fat percentage should I drop to before starting? I will read up on AI's, hCG and PCT protocols.
kronik420 - how many vials would I need of each?
In terms of supplements, am I okay?

I will keep all the comments in mind for when I do begin!

Thanks!

[austinite]

Makes sense - will hold off for a bit.

Just for reference:
Austinite - what body fat percentage should I drop to before starting? I will read up on AI's, hCG and PCT protocols.
kronik420 - how many vials would I need of each?
In terms of supplements, am I okay?

I will keep all the comments in mind for when I do begin!

Thanks!

16% is safer. And I would do a cutting cycle when you're ready. I would never bulk unless under 14% or 13% even better.

Good call on holding off. Stick around, I look forward to your progress.

[kronik420]

Makes sense - will hold off for a bit.

Just for reference:
Austinite - what body fat percentage should I drop to before starting? I will read up on AI's, hCG and PCT protocols.
kronik420 - how many vials would I need of each?
In terms of supplements, am I okay?

I will keep all the comments in mind for when I do begin!

Thanks!

do some research over the next few years and you will find the answers to your questions..

as for supplements, all you'll need is:

creatine, whey (if you can get your required protein intake from real food then you won't need this..), fish oil caps

[ace123]

do some research over the next few years and you will find the answers to your questions..

as for supplements, all you'll need is:

creatine, whey (if you can get your required protein intake from real food then you won't need this..), fish oil caps

Fair enough, thanks!

[kronik420]

Fair enough, thanks!

here's some light reading to get you started:

http://www.steroid.com/Testosterone.php

[mrmida]

Fair enough, thanks!

I'm curious ace, since you have the gear and plan on starting this cycle tomorrow, are you now going to nix aas and instead take the advice given?

[crazy mike]

OK. I understand now.

1. Six months of training is not enough time to jump into cycling. You could easily get injured.
2. Body fat is not terrible, but certainly wouldnt hurt to drop that a couple percentages so that you actually see the results.
3. Research more. Read up on AI's, hCG and PCT protocols. This will help you succeed in your first future cycle.

My advice would be to continue training hard, but eat even harder. Have the pro's in the nutrition section evaluate your diet. AAS will do nothing without proper nutrition. These are calculated formulas that you can learn all about in the diet section.

I know it's probably not what you wanted to hear, but I'd like to see you setup for success. Without the above, you'd be setting yourself up to fail. No sense in wasting time, money and risking injury.

Best of luck to you. You're in good hands here. Enjoy your stay.

I gotta tell you man, all the guys told you about the in regard to holing off to avoid injury. And Austinite just summarized it for you. She's right on so listen to all she said, don't discount anything said by her and or the others. Good luck man, welcome and enjoy this place it's great. ...crazy mike

[ace123]

I'm curious ace, since you have the gear and plan on starting this cycle tomorrow, are you now going to nix aas and instead take the advice given?

Definitely didn't start today, I will do more research over the next week or two and come up with a new game plan, since obviously I am not educated enough.

I really planned on getting ready for summer by doing a short cycle over the next 4 weeks, just to bulk and cut a bit, but it's probably a really bad idea.

My gear doesn't expire till late 2016 so I could potentially hold off a while.

With that said, it's going to be quite hard to have gear and not use it!

Thanks for all the advice guys!!

[neverbackdown]

Man am a new to this to all you have to do is make sure you got some arimidex to go with your cycle at all time this prevent sides and gyno . For your first cycle you should do tren ace and test prop are my favored test put size plus dont drop your sex drive.tren put size and cuts and 1 to 8 weeks test prop tren ace arimidex 9 to 10 weeks winnie and you will be looking awsome. And make use you sanitized went injecting please that the most important you dont want a infection and have a strict diet and you be good . People in here they attack the new ppl like they was a time that they didn't know how to use steroids everybody was a noob on this ones stop acting like ya all scientist and shit because i dont see no degrees on here we here because we want to look big look good and be safe i just had to get it out of my head .

[neverbackdown]

And have some nolvadex fpr pct after you finish

[kawika]

Man am a new to this to all you have to do is make sure you got some arimidex to go with your cycle at all time this prevent sides and gyno . For your first cycle you should do tren ace and test prop are my favored test put size plus dont drop your sex drive.tren put size and cuts and 1 to 8 weeks test prop tren ace arimidex 9 to 10 weeks winnie and you will be looking awsome. And make use you sanitized went injecting please that the most important you dont want a infection and have a strict diet and you be good . People in here they attack the new ppl like they was a time that they didn't know how to use steroids everybody was a noob on this ones stop acting like ya all scientist and shit because i dont see no degrees on here we here because we want to look big look good and be safe i just had to get it out of my head .

Terrible advice. He's a beginner; you say start with tren? Lol

And actually there are members here who have degrees in medicine..... so in essence they are scientist.

Also please learn English a bit. Most of that is unintelligible.

[neverbackdown]

Nigga please

[neverbackdown]

Or you new to this to and now you a scientist also lol mean while you asking for a test and tren cycle wow what a way to contradict your self and what English have to do with the advice retard

[kawika]

Or you new to this to and now you a scientist also lol mean while you asking for a test and tren cycle wow what a way to contradict your self and what English have to do with the advice retard

What???

Almost comprehensible.

Try again

[pitchindude]

Man am a new to this to all you have to do is make sure you got some arimidex to go with your cycle at all time this prevent sides and gyno . For your first cycle you should do tren ace and test prop are my favored test put size plus dont drop your sex drive.tren put size and cuts and 1 to 8 weeks test prop tren ace arimidex 9 to 10 weeks winnie and you will be looking awsome. And make use you sanitized went injecting please that the most important you dont want a infection and have a strict diet and you be good . People in here they attack the new ppl like they was a time that they didn't know how to use steroids everybody was a noob on this ones stop acting like ya all scientist and shit because i dont see no degrees on here we here because we want to look big look good and be safe i just had to get it out of my head .

People get "attacked" in here because they come in and act like disrespectful little turds. Not because they're noob's. People can't come in and demand answers and then act like childish high school kids calling people names because they don't get the answers they want. THAT is why people get "attacked".

And for the record, I have a degree is science and currently working on a second degree. So technically, yes, I am a scientist.

[johnnymctrance]

16% is safer. And I would do a cutting cycle when you're ready. I would never bulk unless under 14% or 13% even better.

Good call on holding off. Stick around, I look forward to your progress.

What are the health implications of doing a cycle with a high bf% as opposed to having a lower bodyfat???????

[neverbackdown]

People get "attacked" in here because they come in and act like disrespectful little turds. Not because they're noob's. People can't come in and demand answers and then act like childish high school kids calling people names because they don't get the answers they want. THAT is why people get "attacked".

And for the record, I have a degree is science and currently working on a second degree. So technically, yes, I am a scientist.

Good for you man i hope you get your second degree i just say this guy attack me first so i was just replying not looking to offend nobody else

[lovbyts]

Good for you man i hope you get your second degree i just say this guy attack me first so i was just replying not looking to offend nobody else

From the post I have been seeing such as above you are quick to offend and you give terrible advice. Guess who is on my short list for next to be banned?

[neverbackdown]

From the post I have been seeing such as above you are quick to offend and you give terrible advice. Guess who is on my short list for next to be banned?

Do what you got to do

[lovbyts]

Do what you got to do

What happens is up to you.

[--->>405<<---]

Do what you got to do

dude i dont get people like you. u are not the first, nor will u be the last. why do u come on here and right off the rip start bad mouthing the site and the way it is run? in a way it really makes u look like an idiot because for a site that u disapprove of so much u sure do seem to be spending a fair amount of time here.

why not be smart and go somewhere that meets ur criteria??

if u want to stay here i would suggest u drop the know it all attitude and try to fit in, otherwise from the looks of things u will not be here long.

[Flagg]

Nigga please

Please curb this kind of talk, this isn't 4chan or some gaming forum.

[OnTheSauce]

Just ban him already.

[mr.slippyfist69]

The least sound advise I've heard today. Tren is nightmare if your not ready for it. I waited till my 4th cycle and now it retrospect I say ( along with others here) it was still too early. Read, eat, train, grow and drop some BF....can't go wrong with a plan like that. Good luck and welcome.

[kawika]

Just ban him already.

x2...

[neverbackdown]

Yeah do it because i could create another one you stupids with a new name

[RajaSultan]

From the post I have been seeing such as above you are quick to offend and you give terrible advice. Guess who is on my short list for next to be banned?

what about me ?

[ChiveOn]

Good for you man i hope you get your second degree i just say this guy attack me first so i was just replying not looking to offend nobody else

You were "attacked" because you're giving awful advice... Noone in their right mind would recommend tren as a first cycle as it is known to have harsh sides. But to recommend tren test and winny all at the same time? (Rolls eyes) a new user, and to some degree, even more experienced users with several cycles under their belt, would have a hard time telling what sides are coming from which compound and how to properly control them.

What you do to your own body is stupid. But please don't advise others to do the same