Tren a or npp or both

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

33 5 7 225 7 cycles over last 6 yrs
20%
Lifting off and on since I was 14
Had a hernia no lifting for 4 months I'm already down 12 lbs
Thinking start cycle may drop another 15 20 before I go on
I have love prop tren
But been reading mixed things with on npp
Can I use npp front side and tren back side or is 8 to 10 weeks a waste
I was going to run prop 30 to 50 my Ed and tren 50 Ed
I am pretty dense and yeah little heavier right now but I'm not a fatty
Just wanted some other input you can read and read and read but time to ask for a little better direction

[BBJT200]

personally, I see no need for tren AND npp.
id drop the bodyfat % a bit before you jump back on.

If it ain't broke, dont fix it--
Prop/tren works well for you, stick with it imo!

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

Yeah shooting for 15 20 by may put me down around 205

[RoadToHuge]

Agreed. Drop bodyfat to 15% before start tho. You don't want to end up at 23-25% bodyfat. Thats disgusting jeff...

Tren and if you really want a hardcore cycle, add var at 100mg daily.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

Also have some gh thinking running 6 months 3 to 5 iu daily

[ScotchGuard02]

I've never tried two nor19's before. There seems to be a rule not to run two nor19's in the same cycle. I've read arguments for/against such a regiment. I've run Tren/Test Prop with great results. It's a pretty potent combo even in low doses.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

I. Could order some var I have 60 drol on hand var better option?

[Capebuffalo]

What are your goals ? That will determine what you should use. It seems your just throwing compounds out looking for someone to say that's it. Do it.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

I used tren prop love it just been. Curious about npp and tren
Goals like to put my 15 20 lbs muccles I lost when I got my hernia and surgery
I had 19 on h arms 29 inch thighs 31 inch waist so I lost quite a bit
Just wanted some other guys input

[Capebuffalo]

I used tren prop love it just been. Curious about npp and tren
Goals like to put my 15 20 lbs muccles I lost when I got my hernia and surgery
I had 19 on h arms 29 inch thighs 31 inch waist so I lost quite a bit
Just wanted some other guys input

OK What were your previous cycles and what gains were made with them? And how long has it been since you cycled last?
I have run npp and tren a at the same time BTW

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

OK What were your previous cycles and what gains were made with them? And how long has it been since you cycled last?
I have run npp and tren a at the same time BTW

Previously I have ran tren prop
Prop 50 Ed and 75 to 100 tren a
Ran 2 week drol in beginning
I put on 15 solids lbs
My biggest was I put on 25 220 to 245 but had a belly I was bulking heavy
Felt way incomfortable
10 week
Prop 100 Ed and 150
I'm very gyno prone gyno is from test though I get it by nips by week one with test
So I lowered it
My other cycles have been longer eaters ( I really enjoy the short ones)
Cyp deca tren e

Last cycles was July 2012
I was running cyp and tren e thought I would try less injections
I ran 100 mg weekly test and 300
I didnt feel I had the control like I did with prop and ace
So I will stay with short eaters I can deal with Ed injections
I would ultimately love to hit a solid 200 210 under 12 % bf I don't care about being totally shredded plus I love my pizza and beers when I feel like it not walking around shredded all day

[Capebuffalo]

Run prop and tren a then
I like running tren 3 x higher than my test. It works for me that way
AI HCG and PCT

[RoadToHuge]

I run at the same level, like 600, 600. It varies from person to person. I use to do it Cape's way but not anymore..

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

Yeah I guess everyone different but test and tren fight for same receptor and tren is 5 times as strong
What were your sides and strength like ?

[MickeyKnox]

Running two Nors is fine. Its no different than running Tren 75mg EOD and Deca 50mg EOD. Thats a total of 125mg EOD. No different than running Tren alone at 125mg EOD - other than Tren's anabolic rating being higher than Deca.

But before i would consider AAS, i would focus on reducing your BF% like the others have advised. This will also reduce your likelihood of experiencing unwanted sides attributed to high E2 levels like, Erectile Dysfunction (ED), Acne, Raised Blood Pressure, Increased Heart Rate, Bloating, Cardio vascular Issues, Mood swings, changes to your Cholesterol Factors (HDL-C, LDL-C, TG, TC)...ect.

Excess fatty tissue is a huge proponent of Estrogen. "Adipose tissue can contribute significantly to the circulating pool of estrogens." You want your BF to be as low as possible before you begin your proposed cycle - very important! Read this clinical study…http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11511861

And then head over to the Nutritional Forums and the Specialists in there will assist you in developing a solid diet that will reflect your intended goals and slim you down to a more suitable and safe BF%. Remember, your gains and body composition begin in the kitchen, not the needle.

Nutritional Forum

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UHNufa7X_fs

[RoadToHuge]

Yeah I guess everyone different but test and tren fight for same receptor and tren is 5 times as strong
What were your sides and strength like ?

B.S. - There are more than enough receptors to go around...

[Capebuffalo]

B.S. - There are more than enough receptors to go around...

Agree. More than enough to go around.

[MickeyKnox]

Agree. More than enough to go around.

A big X3. Thats bro science at its best..lol

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

Lmao!
I agree def need bf down why I am waiting trying not to give in to impatience !!!

[Capebuffalo]

Lmao!
I agree def need bf down why I am waiting trying not to give in to impatience !!!

You really need to. It's not worth the added risk. Just not.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

You think clen might help ?
I know I can drop with diet and cardio just little help... Or any OTC fat burners

[Capebuffalo]

Diet and cardio.

[NEVERBIGENOUGH]

Ok I'm in