Degree of HPTA supression

[johnnymctrance]

Would there be greater suppression of HPTA related to the length of cycle?

Like i can imagine if you are on a 20week cycle you will be very suppressed

What i mean is

for example a 12week enanthate vs 8week prop cycle

Would it not be through that you could be less suppressed from the 8week prop cycle as it is for shorter duration???

[kelkel]

Shutdown is shutdown. Suppression is a different animal. You'd be just as shutdown from either cycle mentioned, just one longer than the other.

[Granovich]

dude we asked the same question same time LOL

[Granovich]

Shutdown is shutdown. Suppression is a different animal. You'd be just as shutdown from either cycle mentioned, just one longer than the other.

shutdown is shutdown but restarting an HPTA been off for long time should be harder than one been off for 8 weeks
no ?
im not sure thou and thats why i asked same question LOL

[johnnymctrance]

dude we asked the same question same time LOL

Lol i noticed that haha... what a coincidence!!

[Lunk1]

100% shutdown of your HPTA is 100% shutdown...the only variable van be how difficult it may be to "restart" from longer cycles.

[jimmyinkedup]

100% shutdown of your HPTA is 100% shutdown...the only variable van be how difficult it may be to "restart" from longer cycles.

Exactly. Is that the question? Will being shutdown longer make recovery more difficult? If it is my experience has been yes it will. People often ask about the huge increase in sides with todays bodybuilders over the older ones. You knw like Arnold and those guys didnt have gyno etc and didnt do pct. You would think with the knowledge and compounds now available sides would be less - but they arent. People used to recover with no or poor pct's etc. Cycles back then were 6-8 weeks. Now its doubled. I think that has added to sides and made recovery more difficult.

[Granovich]

Exactly. Is that the question? Will being shutdown longer make recovery more difficult? If it is my experience has been yes it will. People often ask about the huge increase in sides with todays bodybuilders over the older ones. You knw like Arnold and those guys didnt have gyno etc and didnt do pct. You would think with the knowledge and compounds now available sides would be less - but they arent. People used to recover with no or poor pct's etc. Cycles back then were 6-8 weeks. Now its doubled. I think that has added to sides and made recovery more difficult.

alot of people talking about arnold doing deca and primo for many weeks and taper up and down and take few weeks off then come right back on
you saying this is bullshit and all his cycles were 6-8 weeks ?

[jimmyinkedup]

alot of people talking about arnold doing deca and primo for many weeks and taper up and down and take few weeks off then come right back on
you saying this is bullshit and all his cycles were 6-8 weeks ?

I have no idea. What im saying is that the trend in longer cycles has opened up more complications and higher likelihood of sides and in many cases made recovery of hpta more difficult than when cycle lengths of 6-8 weeks were the norm.

[johnnymctrance]

Exactly. Is that the question? Will being shutdown longer make recovery more difficult? If it is my experience has been yes it will. People often ask about the huge increase in sides with todays bodybuilders over the older ones. You knw like Arnold and those guys didnt have gyno etc and didnt do pct. You would think with the knowledge and compounds now available sides would be less - but they arent. People used to recover with no or poor pct's etc. Cycles back then were 6-8 weeks. Now its doubled. I think that has added to sides and made recovery more difficult.

So an 8 week prop cycle would be less damaging than a 12 week enanthate ??

[jimmyinkedup]

So an 8 week prop cycle would be less damaging than a 12 week enanthate??

I dont know if id say damaging but less likelihood of sides and an easier recovery of hpta function.

[johnnymctrance]

I dont know if id say damaging but less likelihood of sides and an easier recovery of hpta function.

Thanks for the advice man.... my questions have been answered