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    Is this the optimum as a beginner cycle?!

    i have been told to take :250mg decka alfa + 250mg Bildanone alfa + testerone.

    is the best combination and for how long shall i take this and what are the dosage?

    and what is the best for post cycle?
    i am 22 years old, 168cm, 56kg

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    A little too young and a little too light.

    Your natural testosterone levels are sky high right now. I would concentrate on taking advantage of that as you can make tremendous gains in following few short years.

    It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS.

    Its also important to understand what it is your putting into your body and the associated roles these compounds play, and the dreaded side effects that are bound to creep up on you - especially if you didn’t do your homework. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more.

    And if you do a cycle now, you likely will not keep any of it because you have not built a foundation for any new muscle to grow on. You first need to build some solid dense muscle in order to maintain any new muscle. Then, you need to eat more to maintain your new muscle. It’s all about eating. Figure out your TDEE and up your cals at least 500 each day to gain some weight. Workout regularly and eat a high calorie clean balanced diet. There's no magic pill. The magic is EATING.

    Post your intended diet here including macros and the pros in there will assist you in tweaking your diet to fit your intended goals. Good luck!

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    to young. save your self and dont do it...
    it really does shut your natural testosterone like Mickey said and its almost impossible to fully reverse it and recover. it happened to me... never fully recover
    and all gains are gone so its useless.... gain some more weight naturally. learn to eat right and workout hard. in 2-3 years you will be ready
    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granovich View Post
    to young. save your self and dont do it...
    it really does shut your natural testosterone like Mickey said and its almost impossible to fully reverse it and recover. it happened to me... never fully recover
    and all gains are gone so its useless.... gain some more weight naturally. learn to eat right and workout hard. in 2-3 years you will be ready
    good luck
    believe me, i have been working for the past 5 years, i was skinny like a broom stick!! i was 45 kg. now i am 56. and for the past year i just 3 kgs. almost no change. just getting more ripped. i have been working with professional trainers and regarding my diet, an experienced nutrition is working with me but no change!! i just though that i give a try for just one test cycle and i dnt plan to take more cycles!! wat do u think?

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    I wouldn't pay someone to tell me what to eat, if you reach your goal their out of a job all you need to know is here and its free! You and I are close to the same stats I sorted out my own diet from here and I'm gaining really well.

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    Congratulations: your metabolism defies the laws of science.

    Seriously though, you just don't eat enough.

    And that's a terrible first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Congratulations: your metabolism defies the laws of science.

    Seriously though, you just don't eat enough.

    And that's a terrible first cycle.
    my metabolism rate is 1550!!
    then what is the best beginner cycle?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tata56 View Post
    my metabolism rate is 1550!!
    then what is the best beginner cycle?!
    What does that even mean? You mean your BMR is only 1550 kcals? That should make it easy to gain weight.

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    Exactly what Bonaparte said.

    Tata, what is you guesstimate of BF% using this template?

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    yes, my BMR is 1550 kcal
    last measured 3 weeks ago my BF% was 7.3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Exactly what Bonaparte said.

    Tata, what is you guesstimate of BF% using this template?

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    yes, my BMR is 1550 kcal
    last measured 3 weeks ago my BF% was 7.3%

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    5.5 ft tall and 123lbs? I was about to figure out your TDEE but skipped it when i realized your stats.

    AAS is not for you at this time. If you do a cycle now, you likely will not keep any of it because you have not built a foundation for any new muscle to grow on. You first need to build some solid dense muscle in order to maintain any new muscle. Then, you need to eat more to maintain your new muscle. It’s all about eating. Figure out your TDEE and up your cals at least 500 each day to gain some weight. Workout regularly and eat a high calorie clean balanced diet. There's no magic pill. The magic is EATING.

    Post your intended diet here including macros and the pros in there will assist you in tweaking your diet to fit your intended goals. Good luck!


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    hey thats a useful pic to estimate BF% especially when one does not have access to calipers, like me heh

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    123 lbs is way too light for AAS use. Even at 5'5" you could gain another 40-50 lbs natty. I'd at least get up to 160 before considering gear. Also AAS will make it even less likely that you'll grow more.

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