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    masteron or anavar? HELPPP!!!

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    6'2 1/2
    10.3% bf
    190lbs

    run a mile every morning to go along with basketball 4-5 times a week

    will be running an 8 week cycle for the summer
    1-8 test prop 100mg eod
    anavar 3-8 60mged OR masteron weeks 1-8 100mg rod
    .25 arimidix eod
    hcg 250iu 2x week till 4 days before SERM treatment

    pct
    nolva 20/20/20/20
    colimd 25/25/25/25

    MAST OR VAR!!?? sell me to one please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba136
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    6'2 1/2
    10.3% bf
    190lbs

    run a mile every morning to go along with basketball 4-5 times a week

    will be running an 8 week cycle for the summer
    1-8 test prop 100mg eod
    anavar 3-8 60mged OR masteron weeks 1-8 100mg rod
    .25 arimidix eod
    hcg 250iu 2x week till 4 days before SERM treatment

    pct
    nolva 20/20/20/20
    colimd 25/25/25/25

    MAST OR VAR!!?? sell me to one please!
    How'd u come up with 10.3% bf?
    Cycle history?
    Goal?

    U seem a bit light, how long have u been lifting?

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    With your stats i would use Mast but ruin it higher - 150mg EOD.

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    Sorry, didnt mean to step on you Tron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox
    Sorry, didnt mean to step on you Tron.
    Nah it's cool. I was just being a bit inquisitive. If he wants to just have hard look, mast for sure. But if he's interested in strength I'd go with the var. but wondering if his diet needs sorting out first. 6'2'' and 190 (170lbs lbm). Not bad, but at 6'2.5" I'd like to see him at least above 200 at same bf. wondering if he knows how to eat big is all really

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    been an athlete my whole life. played college baseball. type 1 diabetic. eat about 3000 calls a day.

    1 previous cycle test e 400mg week for 12 weeks.
    my goal is to get that hard/cut look with putting on a little but more mass. don't want to get huge. would be satisfied with 15lbs

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    sorry been lifting consistently since i got into college so about 7 years

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    or how about both? prop/mast/var sounds like a dream cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    Nah it's cool. I was just being a bit inquisitive. If he wants to just have hard look, mast for sure. But if he's interested in strength I'd go with the var. but wondering if his diet needs sorting out first. 6'2'' and 190 (170lbs lbm). Not bad, but at 6'2.5" I'd like to see him at least above 200 at same bf. wondering if he knows how to eat big is all really

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    Absolutely brother.

    Quote Originally Posted by bubba136 View Post
    been an athlete my whole life. played college baseball. type 1 diabetic. eat about 3000 calls a day.

    1 previous cycle test e 400mg week for 12 weeks.
    my goal is to get that hard/cut look with putting on a little but more mass. don't want to get huge. would be satisfied with 15lbs
    I think your goals are realistic. PCT may be a bit light, though.

    Good luck man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba136 View Post
    or how about both? prop/mast/var sounds like a dream cycle
    You could use them both. i was simply answering your initial question.

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    Then yeah, I'd go mast with what MK recommended on dosage. Play with ur diet to keep in a surplus but not high. Like 200-300 above tdee. Extremely clean good and you'll put in some good quality mass and b pretty hard looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    You could use them both. i was simply answering your initial question.
    Concur. But if ur gonna use both, if use the var at the beginning for first 4-5 weeks at a higher dose, like 90-100.

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    ok so u recommend using the var in the beginning rather than the end? i was leaning toward throwing it in the last 6 weeks. reason behind using the first 4 weeks?

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    Either end since you're using both short esters. I think Trons choice is to front end it, but every one is different. Doesn't matter really when using short esters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba136
    ok so u recommend using the var in the beginning rather than the end? i was leaning toward throwing it in the last 6 weeks. reason behind using the first 4 weeks?
    Because the half life is so short on it, u will see changes faster. I noticed a strength gain 3 days into it. Noticed visual changes within the first week. It will kick start (even a short ester cycle) to squeeze every little bit out of ur cycle.

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    As mick said, there's nothing wrong with either way. I just prefer to front end it because the serum levels aren't built up yet from the test or whatever other compound I'm using (unless its tne). I'm just impatient I guess lol

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    I guess that makes sense. It'll be more noticeable in the beginning than if u were to throw in during the cycle while serum levels are high. Ok will def take that into consideration ?. Never thought of it like that.

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