bloated as f

[snowblowjoe]

Currently 1 week into 9 week cycle.

Test prop 500mg ew
Tbol 100mg ed first 4 weeks

This is my third cycle and I've never experienced bloating this is my first time with Tbol but from what I read it shouldn't be bloating me. I'm taking letro 2.5mg ed

I just got my estrogen levels taken yesterday and I'll have those results soon but my question is if my bloating isnt related to my estrogen levels what else could it be related to?

[bigsiv]

Currently 1 week into 9 week cycle.

Test prop 500mg ew
Tbol 100mg ed first 4 weeks

This is my third cycle and I've never experienced bloating this is my first time with Tbol but from what I read it shouldn't be bloating me. I'm taking letro 2.5mg ed

I just got my estrogen levels taken yesterday and I'll have those results soon but my question is if my bloating isnt related to my estrogen levels what else could it be related to?

Not sure why your bloated but more important what is the reason for 2.5mg of letro as an A.i?

[snowblowjoe]

Because I was taking that much letro as well as 80 milligrams of raloxifen OFF cycle and my estrogen levels were still 3 points from being considered high. I know how it feels for my estrogen levels to crash so I'm not worried about that I can catch it quickly. More concerned with bloating.


I would almost want to say this tbol is dbol but I got it from a verified legit sciroxx distributor (Karls American warehouse) so I dunno what to think.

[bigsiv]

I haven't any experience in Tbol whereas dbol I have loads and get horribly bloated off it. I read Tbol was the same as dbol WITHOUT the bloat so you may be right

I think your letro is bunk if your e2 is still too high. 2.5mg ed seems extreme to me

[snowblowjoe]

Ya I got it from arr. If this next test shows my levels still high then I'm definitely contacting them.

But is there anything else that could cause the bloating or is it purely an estrogen issue?

[bigsiv]

Ya I got it from arr. If this next test shows my levels still high then I'm definitely contacting them.

But is there anything else that could cause the bloating or is it purely an estrogen issue?

Could be a lot of things food, sodium, water intake (not enough causes bloating), milk etc
But with you been a week on cycle and taken Tbol/dbol I would say it was that and if so look at your diet, water and salt intake. Always plays havoc with me when I take dbol.

What fuse is the Tbol?

Definitely think there is something up with your letro

[bigsiv]

Fuse meant dose lol

[bigsiv]

Just read 100mg try dropping it to 50 see how that works for a couple if days

[snowblowjoe]

I'm not taking dbol just so you know. Atleast it's not supposed to be and it's from verified source.

I drink more than a gallon of water everyday and don't have much salt intake. My diet is better than it was on previous two cycles.

You don't think dropping tbol all the way down to 50 is gonna **** all my levels up and possible gains? I'll have the estrogen results tomorrow

[bigsiv]

Was just a though as I said I have no experience with Tbol only what I've read I just don't know why you would bloat on it if all other factors like diet are in check. Let me know what your e2 levels come back like that will give us a better picture.

See how good this letro is

[snowblowjoe]

Yep I will. Never thought being bloated would fukn suck so much

[bigsiv]

Honestly dbol does it to me anything after 40mgs a day, I know only too well how much of a pain in the ass it is lol. Nothing to major to sort out though

[Ronnie Rowland]

It is probably your diet unless someone sold you dbol instead of Tbol.

[snowblowjoe]

Well I just did some research on Google so I'm taking all that with a grain of salt what the word quite a few people that seems like they were vets in the respected forums that said high doses of tbol can cause bloating and obviously my dosage is very high so I'm gonna cut it down to 60mg ed.

I'm just surprised that I've only been taking it for 7 days and I've literally been bloated almost the whole seven days ever since my first pin of test.

Anyways if my estrogen turns out okay tomorrow then I will definitely drop dose to 60mg ed.

[bigsiv]

Good call

[Granovich]

letro 2.5 mg ED is excessive .. even if it was dbol you shouldnt bloat like this...
people take 2.5 mg twice a week tops and crush their Estrogen

[snowblowjoe]

Well like I said tomorrow if it's not hella low then I have to contact arr

[snowblowjoe]

So I guess my bloating is either estrogen, diet, water intake, or high dose tbol related?

Are there any other possible causes?

[snowblowjoe]

Bump

[pumping_iron]

I've had that before to wear I get so bloated I'm almost sick to my stomach at night after I train..try to read sodium percentages on the back of labels and monitor that for a week, some cardio, abs, and healthier carbs seemed to help me. Oh and up your water intake with less carbs should flush you out.

[warmouth]

Could you have been sold Dbol instead?

[snowblowjoe]

Well like I said I got it straight from sciroxx in America from Karl.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Well I just did some research on Google so I'm taking all that with a grain of salt what the word quite a few people that seems like they were vets in the respected forums that said high doses of tbol can cause bloating and obviously my dosage is very high so I'm gonna cut it down to 60mg ed.

I'm just surprised that I've only been taking it for 7 days and I've literally been bloated almost the whole seven days ever since my first pin of test.

Anyways if my estrogen turns out okay tomorrow then I will definitely drop dose to 60mg ed.

I have seen females gain 5 lbs of water bloat from taking only 10 mgs of anavar daily and it takes less than a week to manifest.

So, yes tbol could make you bloat and feel bad. Dbol is often sold in place of Tbol to make money. Same goes for tren. A lot of times people think they are getting the more expensive tren- but are actually being sold tren-a which is less expensive to produce.

[snowblowjoe]

I think the tbol he had was less expensive than the dbol, or very close in price. I also expect more muscle gain. I've never taken d bol but here it works a quickly

[snowblowjoe]

Out of 0-54 as normal estrogen levels mine was 23.


So the most likely rules out the estrogen Factor.

Already dropped my tbol dose to 30mg twice a day to see how I react to that. Less salt and more water seem to be in my future...

[bigJ_777]

go pick up some potasium caps & that will fix your sodium problem as long as you take enough..im thinking you could have gotten dbol, but if your sure its tbol then scratch that..prop WILL bloat you if your diet is not clean. & Your e2 is still that high after taking 2.5 mg letro?! When I ran that shit at that dose I had to back off b/c of the mental aspects from it & my.joints got fuked

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[snowblowjoe]

Nobody believes me but I naturally have a high tolerance for all drugs it seems weather be narcotics, anabolics or just plain over the counter pills.

Unless arr has seriously diluted their products Times New Roman did say one of his buddies had a problem is well with their ai

[bigsiv]

Your only a week into your cycle so your estrogen wouldn't be that high yet but to be doing 2.5 mg a day of letro it should be crushed at this point not mid range. It does sound like its severely underdosed I would definitely have a word

[snowblowjoe]

For what it's worth its only like 20 bucks more than dbol so that was the pretty stupid to ruin a great reputation over 20 bucks

[bigsiv]

For what it's worth its only like 20 bucks more than dbol so that was the pretty stupid to ruin a great reputation over 20 bucks

I honestly couldn't tell you the difference with Tbol I have never had it. Personally I'm sick of oral kick starts they are a load of bollocks IMO anything that comes that quick (dbol bloat) us not WORTH the strain to the body.

Dbol was mentioned because you mentioned bloat. Straight away I think of diababol. Water retention, guy etc.

Problems I see from this is your letro is shit, if it was good I don't think you would get water retention if your diet is good. And your estro would be close to zero. I don't use the site sponsor myself so I can't comment on the products but I have read people having problems, but like anything you get what you pay for

[ironbeck]

i run letro from AR-R and its good stuff? 2.5mg?ed? r u sure dude, even at a 1000mg of test that would crush your estro lvs?

[bigsiv]

i run letro from AR-R and its good stuff? 2.5mg?ed? r u sure dude, even at a 1000mg of test that would crush your estro lvs?

Agreed^^

[snowblowjoe]

Contacting arr tomorrow or within the next couple days. Because these will be bad results on two separate bottles of letro now