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    Test only first cycle

    So when I was 16 years old one of my buddies who was a bit older got on steroids and the gains were tremendous. I had to ask what he was on; he said deca to bulk and winny to cut, I made up my mind right there that what I needed was something called deca and winstrol . I was a little sh#t doing research on what cycle I was going to do. The more inquiring I did the more I was told to wait. Luckily for me (even as a little sh#t) I would actually listen to the advice. So I waited and waited. I'm now a 25 years old father in a different world. One thing that I do remember from the research I did at the time was people saying 'you make the most gains on your first cycle so take advantage'. I now know this is not necessarily true, in fact most people recommend a test only first cycle. I have decided to run a 12 week test only cycle of Sustanon
    Week1-12 at 500mg. At what point should I incorporate aromasin and will there be any thing else that I need for pct?
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    Most Common Beginners Cycles - Look here..

    Everything you need is here but make sure diet and training are in check first before you take the plunge. Good luck buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv View Post
    Most Common Beginners Cycles - Look here..

    Everything you need is here but make sure diet and training are in check first before you take the plunge. Good luck buddy
    Ha! Great minds think alike..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    Ha! Great minds think alike..lol
    Ok let's say I go with your beginner cycle

    Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
    Wk 1-4 Dianabol (Dbol ) = 30mg/day *half life is 4-6hrs
    Wk 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg ED MIN - monitor and adjust accordingly.
    Wk 1-14.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection.

    PCT
    Begins wk 15 to wk 19

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/20/20/20

    Would it be ok to up the test to 500mg or you would advice against this?

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    It is 500mg. 250 twice per wk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    Ha! Great minds think alike..lol
    Just got in there quicker than you for a change Mickey lol all your work bro it's a great thread

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    Ok last question I have is in regards to gyno..you see I have very very small case of gyno but none the less its there despite all my cardio efforts.. On this cycle that we have just discussed is there anything different I should take or do? Especially with Aromasin ?

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    Without bloodwork, other than perhaps splitting the 12.5mg dosage up every 12 hours or increasing to 25mg split twice per day, you'll have to govern yourself according to your felt and observed sides.

    Do you have Nolva on hand? Small dose on cycle (10mg/day) have proven to be effective for those who are super sensitive to gyno as well.

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    Hey humbleman. I only add that these two men have it right on for you. Your in good hands with this forum. Good luck, work hard you can do it....crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv View Post
    Just got in there quicker than you for a change Mickey lol all your work bro it's a great thread
    Just noticed this now. Yeah youre quick on the trigger too. Thanks man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox
    Without bloodwork, other than perhaps splitting the 12.5mg dosage up every 12 hours or increasing to 25mg split twice per day, you'll have to govern yourself according to your felt and observed sides.

    Do you have Nolva on hand? Small dose on cycle (10mg/day) have proven to be effective for those who are super sensitive to gyno as well.
    So are you saying take 25mg split a day of Aromasin and 10mg a day of Nolva?

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