cycle with hgh

[snowblowjoe]

So my goals are to keep as much hair as possible and put on atleast 10 pounds of lean muscle mass. Want to drop my body fat from 15 percent down to about 10.

I wanted to run a 12 week test e but I want to be easy as possible on scalp so decided to go 8-10 weeks instead

Test prop 500mg ew
Tbol 60mg ed for first 4 weeks

Start hcg at week 4 at 500iu ew

Will start taking t4 as soon as I get hgh. Currently on day 9 of 9 week cycle.

I will be adding jintropin hgh with my cycle...

With synergisim in mind what should my dosing protocol be on my hgh? ED or 5 on 2 off? How many iu's?
This will be first time using hgh.

[snowblowjoe]

Also, besides t4 and anabolics, what can I use to make my hgh more effective?

[songdog]

With all the fakes out there.I would be real scared to lay out $$ for HGH.

[mrmida]

With all the fakes out there.I would be real scared to lay out $$ for HGH.

Yeah I would be skeptical as well.

[snowblowjoe]

Songdog it's already been done and it's legit gensci pharma jintropin. Have anything helpful to add besides the warning of fake gh?

[Granovich]

How u gonna get 500mg of test prop
U gona do 150mg eod or ed @75mg ?
I would run hgh daily
What dose u planning to get to ?

[snowblowjoe]

125mg eod of test prop

[Gaspaco]

I would do monday-friday and weekends off!!

Start 1iu twice a day and up dosage until 4-5iu/day.

[snowblowjoe]

I wanna start at 3 iu's and go from there seeing how I've never used gh before

[BG]

If you can afford it run GH 7 days ew and split the dosage up through out the day.

[snowblowjoe]

Would the HGH have any impact on my SBHG therefor allowing me to run my short ester cycle longer, like say 10-12 weeks?

[len5678]

Hey - iv never used hgh but as far as i can see...
Cgc makes hgh work 2-10 times better and increases hgh half life from minutes by miles ... why not try ghrp6?...no shut down of natrual hgh need be experienced!... also more efficent and seems very overlooked also a fraction of the price.. users cant sing it praises enough
And some insulin? dont hear people talk much about insulin but from what benefits / side ratio it has seems like good stuff!
Could this combination be an alternative to a AS cycle with minimum sides and lasting gains? what do you dudes think?? has it seems a healthy alternative to AS
Iv never actually never run a proper AS cycle (just a some pills over a few weeks - following no set routine) , so maybe my lack of experience in AS is giving me a clearer 'out of the box' view so to speak .....

[snowblowjoe]

I don't want to **** with insulin way too risky and complicated for me

[snowblowjoe]

Seems like using ghrp6 and cjc would be a total waste. Seeing how the whole reason people use it is to raise their GH yet why would I need to do that when I'll be injecting actual growth hormone?

[len5678]

Well im gonna start this combo myself next week.
See what your saying tho that link you sent put the shits up me!
however it can increase your brain cells aswell, so I intend to use this to my advantage also by using it to learn everything im interested in at rapid rate... alot of what you experience is due to your expectation value..... We seem to be neglecting the mind nowadays... If we use our new state of intellect that our generation has been blessed with in harmony with the body there is no reason why none of us could reach our maximum potential... what we want physically and mentally, what good is an amazing body if your not happy for what ever reason?
Listen to physicist Tom Campbell ( if you or anyone else is interested - worst thing you can do is try and force info on someone) on the subject apparently if we spent a fraction of the time on our minds as bodies we can be great. Brain entrainment can help you focus by synchronising your brain and help athletic performance and help control 'roid rage' ... you just look it up on you tube and stick in a pair of ear phones.... seems to work.

[len5678]

CJC-1295 peptide profile :

Sermorelin Maleimidopropionyl structure:

Tyr-D-Ala-Asp-Ala-Ile-Phe-Thr-Gln-Ser-Tyr-Arg-Lys-Val-Leu-Ala-Gln-Leu-Ser-Ala-Arg-Lys-Leu-Leu-Gln-Asp-Ile-Leu-Ser-Arg-Lys(Mal)-NH2



CJC-1295 peptide, is derived of human growth releasing factor hGRF(1-29). CJC-1295 peptide is a synthetic human GHRH analogue with drug affinity complex (DAC). This enables CJC-1295 peptide to be bound with albumin in the human body and significantly extend the half life, by avoiding enzymatic degradation. CJC-1295 peptide DAC has an advatage over regular growth hormone releasing factors hGRF's to promote effects for extended periods of time, whereas regular hGRF can ony act for minutes before it is degraded by enzymes CJC-1295 peptide is modified of hGRF with D-Ala, Gln, Ala, and Leu substitutions at positions 2, 8, 15, and 27 respectively and drug affinity complexa attached. These CJC-1295 peptide modifications results in much more stable and effective version of hGRF.

Studies report HGH increase by 2 to 10 times the normal levels when CJC-1295 peptide is applied. This consequently increases IGF-1 levels by 1.5 to 3 times within 9 days of a single injection. IGF-1 levels remained above normal levels for 28 days following the injection. No serious side effects were reported by study subjects CJC-1295 peptide was concluded to be very effective HGH stimulant.

CJC 1295 dose (reported in studies)

1000mcg (1mg) weekly...
Sounds like it would work to me

[len5678]

GHRP-6 SOMACRIN (Somatocrinin-6) 5mg
Research peptide reagent profile:

GHRP-6 peptide (somatocrinin-6) is a synthetic analog of met-enkephalin. Also known as growth hormone releasing hexapeptide. GHRP-6 peptide belongs to the group called HGH secretagogues and was developed for its growth hormone- HGH releasing activities and lack of opioid stimulation. It is noteworthy GHRP-6 peptide does not relate to any growth hormone - HGH releasing hormones(GHRH) such as sermorelin and its analgues (CJC1295) and has completely different mechanism of action by acting on different receptor. Naturally, these GHRP-6 peptide receptors interact with hormone called ghrelin. This hormone partially associated with hunger regulation, therefore, GHRP-6 peptide elicit similar results by increasing hunger.

GHRP-6 peptide acts on anterior pituitary gland and stimulates HGH release, however, GHRP-6 does not act on HGH production like sermorelin and sermorelin analogues (CJC1295) do. Therefore, CJC1295 and GHRP-6 act synergistically. This is a beneficial effect if natural release of HGH is inhibited by prolonged use of synthetic HGH. It was also found that increased GH levels through GHRP-6 peptide stimulation improve strength, changes muscle mass to body fat ratio, rejuvenates joints and connective tissue and bone mass. It was discovered that HGH release is much more significant if GHRP-6 is combined with insulin. GHRP-6 is still being highly researched in order to have better clinical understanding.

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Sounds better than hgh to me

[snowblowjoe]

Very interesting. Will have to look into this more.

[len5678]

Just thinking of alternatives - glad you dont think Im a fruit cake - thanks for giving me confidence by saying you think its worth looking into - you obviously know your stuff. This process will change your genetics, for the better.
We all want as good a body as we can get but we all know deep down AS are not a real long term solution... look at Arnie it requires soooo much dedication becomes addictive and all focus and intense intelligence then becomes blinkered ,... life passes by.
The secret I think to our predciment is a equal balance of mind work out as body. This will help us gain mind as well as body growth. Too much of one without the other is not good. you dont want to be a skinny weak genius or the other extreme a good balance is the niche that we are missing

[len5678]

IGF-1 DES 1-3 DETROPIN 1mg
IGF-1 DES 1-3 is another version of IGF-1 which is made not to react with IGFBG, therfore, it has increased activity and a half life in comparison to the endogenous IGF-1. It tend to act weaker than LR3 version, however, it does not have such reduction in activity over time.

Reconstitution Instructions:

Add 2ml of sterile bacteriostatic or sodium chloride water to the vial. This results in 10IU (on insulin syringe mark) = 50mcg.

Research peptide reagent profile:

IGF-1 is released in the liver and binds to the IGF receptors within the cells, which ultimately causes a stimulation of cell growth (both causing new tissue formation and existing tissue growth) and an inhibition of cell death. It is a highly anabolic and anti-catabolic compound. This have many positive effects: increased nitrogen retention and protein synthesis because it is highly anabolic. IGF-1 (in the presence of sufficient protein) actually promotes growth of new muscle cells, which increases the overall number of cells in the muscle.

IGF protects the neurons of the brain as well as promotes growth of new motor neurons, making it more possible to rapidly learn new skills during its use. IGF-1 is also responsible in connective tissue production, improves collagen formation and aids in cartilage repair. Similarly, it affects the bones by aiding in bone production and repair.

[snowblowjoe]

I had mentioned igf-l3 to Marcus and I believe he said there are mixed reviews on it. Some people felt it was worthless others got slight benefit. Igf-l3 is very close in structure and action to igf-des.

As far as me knowing my stuff , I am getting there but still mostly just a novice student. The vets around here are the ones who really know there shit. Doctos, scientists and professors who even have some of there own reports published.

[snowblowjoe]

This is from an extremely experienced, reputable, and well reveered vet on this forum

To be honest I've only used lr3 but i know plenty who have and won't again. My personal opinion is why buy a poor man's version of gh when you can have the rich stuff.

[len5678]

Thanks for all the input and research, as you know Im a novice myself, Iv had 3 shoulder operations and apparently still need a replacement shoulder (every 15 yrs), im 34 and willing to try anything to avoid that. So it was too good to be true for the price no running away from the fact if you wanna be healthy you have to be wealthy!

[frank13]

run it son o yea

[snowblowjoe]

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