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    Question Critique My Cycle

    Hello,

    I would appreciate it if some of you could take a look at this short methyl tren/test cycle I'm putting together, and let me know what you think. I'm not sure what test prop dosage I should go with and I want to be sure my other stuff makes sense. Thank you.

    6 Week Cycle + 4 Week PCT


    • Methyl Tren (oral) two 250mcg/tabs ED for 3 weeks.

    • Test Prop 100-200mg/week on a EOD schedule for 6 weeks.

    • Aromasin 12.5mg ED for AI into cycle and PCT with Clomid 150/100/50/50 and Aromasin 12.5mg ED

    • Liv-52 daily for liver support. (Possibly thru PCT?)

    • Cabaser on hand for possible progesterone related sides (dosage?)

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    Hi Mickey,

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    Your BF% is a bit high bro.

    I recommend you adjust your diet and reduce your Body Fat to around 15% before you begin your cycle. This will also reduce your likelihood of experiencing unwanted sides attributed to high E2 levels like, Erectile Dysfunction (ED), Acne, Raised Blood Pressure, Increased Heart Rate, Bloating, Cardio vascular Issues, Mood swings, changes to your Cholesterol Factors (HDL-C, LDL-C, TG, TC)...ect.

    Excess fatty tissue is a huge proponent of Estrogen. "Adipose tissue can contribute significantly to the circulating pool of estrogens." You want your BF to be as low as possible before you begin your proposed cycle - very important! Read this clinical study…Estrogen production and action. [J Am Acad Dermatol. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

    And then head over to the Nutritional Forums and the Specialists in there will assist you in developing a solid diet that will reflect your intended goals and slim you down to a more suitable and safe BF%. Remember, your gains and body composition begin in the kitchen, not the needle.

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    x2 Everything Mickyknox said. Good luck and welcome to AR. If you be patient and stick around, read through all the forums and stickies and make some friends, you will be glad you did. Lots of very knowledgeable members here that are willing to help
    Last edited by Wes201; 04-21-2013 at 07:26 PM. Reason: Question already answered before i could get my post up

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Your BF% is a bit high bro.

    I recommend you adjust your diet and reduce your Body Fat to around 15% before you begin your cycle. This will also reduce your likelihood of experiencing unwanted sides attributed to high E2 levels like, Erectile Dysfunction (ED), Acne, Raised Blood Pressure, Increased Heart Rate, Bloating, Cardio vascular Issues, Mood swings, changes to your Cholesterol Factors (HDL-C, LDL-C, TG, TC)...ect.

    Excess fatty tissue is a huge proponent of Estrogen. "Adipose tissue can contribute significantly to the circulating pool of estrogens." You want your BF to be as low as possible before you begin your proposed cycle - very important! Read this clinical study…Estrogen production and action. [J Am Acad Dermatol. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

    And then head over to the Nutritional Forums and the Specialists in there will assist you in developing a solid diet that will reflect your intended goals and slim you down to a more suitable and safe BF%. Remember, your gains and body composition begin in the kitchen, not the needle.

    Nutritional Forum

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    Thank you MK . I'm not planning on going into this cycle in current form. I'm doing keto right now to reduce BF. I guess I should have realized by your question what you were getting at and pointed this out. Duh.

    I have 15-20 pounds of fat to drop. I typically can lose at least 15 per month in keto. So it will be a good month down the road before I begin. My intention here with this question was to determine if my cycle looks okay otherwise, not if I'm ready yet for it, but appreciate you looking out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes201 View Post
    x2 Everything Mickyknox said. Good luck and welcome to AR. If you be patient and stick around, read through all the forums and stickies and make some friends, you will be glad you did. Lots of very knowledgeable members here that are willing to help
    Thanks Wes. It's good to be here.

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    In that case then, i recommend you run the Test Prop cycle - with an oral - in the following thread. Forget the Tren tabs.

    **Most Common Beginners Cycles**

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?517175-Most-Common-Beginners-Cycles-Look-here..#.UJZv62fX_fs

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    In that case then, i recommend you run the Test Prop cycle - with an oral - in the following thread. Forget the Tren tabs.

    **Most Common Beginners Cycles**

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?517175-Most-Common-Beginners-Cycles-Look-here..#.UJZv62fX_fs
    Okay, I'll ditch what I was going to do and do one of yours. Thank you. That thread of yours is very helpful.

    Can you tell me why you are saying no to methyl tren? I would like to understand why and not just follow along like a sheep. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KETOGUY View Post
    Okay, I'll ditch what I was going to do and do one of yours. Thank you. That thread of yours is very helpful.

    Can you tell me why you are saying no to methyl tren? I would like to understand why and not just follow along like a sheep. Thanks.
    You're welcome.

    Oral Tren is very hard on your liver. Stick with IM injections and avoid orals whenever possible.

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    btw- just how damaging is 4 weeks of Dbol going to be on my hair? I know it's not at all hair friendly. But I'm hoping 4 weeks (or maybe cut it to 3 weeks?) won't absolutely f me up. I have early stage MPB that I take finasteride and foam for.

    If Dbol is going to destroy my hair, I guess I will go with anavar, even though I want to bulk.

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    You can easily bulk with Var. Bulking begins in the kitchen, not the needle or pill.

    No idea on the hair thing. I dont have DHT issues. Sorry bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    You can easily bulk with Var.
    This is incredibly good news to hear. I did not know that.

    On your 'Option 2. Short Ester' cycle, you have Anavar starting at week 3. Can you please explain why this is? Don't I need something stacked with test from week 1 to get things going? Thanks!

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    Without reading most of the post, much like I do. I will comment on the original.
    Crap, call me biased, I think methyl tren is poison garbage.
    I see you have worries about hair, early stages of MPB means you might as well say bye to that. Dbol won't be the worse thing on your hair but anything you take will probably accelerate your MPB. You can try finasteride and some other crap but my gut tells me you'll be fighting a losing battle

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    Quote Originally Posted by KETOGUY View Post
    This is incredibly good news to hear. I did not know that.

    On your 'Option 2. Short Ester' cycle, you have Anavar starting at week 3. Can you please explain why this is? Don't I need something stacked with test from week 1 to get things going? Thanks!
    The cycle is 8 wks long and i dont recommend running Var for 8 wks.

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    hCG somehow never crossed my radar while studying up on this stuff. So I'm researching it now, and glad to be made aware of it.

    MK, when you say "hCG = 250iu twice/wk day" what so you mean by "twice/wk day." Twice a week/day sounds contradictory to me.

    So I gather you guys mostly sit around and babysit people like me here on this site. Thank you for your help.

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    That must be an error?? I will go look for that immediately.

    250iu 2/wk = two times per wk or every 3.5 days.

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    hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

    hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

    Why HCG is So Important

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

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    Quote Originally Posted by KETOGUY View Post
    hCG somehow never crossed my radar while studying up on this stuff. So I'm researching it now, and glad to be made aware of it.

    MK, when you say "hCG = 250iu twice/wk day" what so you mean by "twice/wk day." Twice a week/day sounds contradictory to me.

    So I gather you guys mostly sit around and babysit people like me here on this site. Thank you for your help.
    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    That must be an error?? I will go look for that immediately.

    250iu 2/wk = two times per wk or every 3.5 days.
    I just looked and that means "twice a wk the day before test injection".

    But i edited it and included a hash mark in between wk and day.

    Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize that could be interpreted incorrectly.

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    Okay cool. I understand. My last remaining question for now would be regarding the hCG injection. So I use an insulin needle and inject into fat as opposed to a regular IM injection? I don't know anything about insulin injections. This is how diabetics do it? In the fat?

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    Yes and yes. Subcutaneously.

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