Orals & Rhabdomyolysis

[PrideR]

Does anyone know how to prevent rhabdomyolysis after a roid cycle? I did some Test E with tbol.
After I finished my tbol I had the symptoms of rhabdomyolysis. I keep myself very hydrated ( 3.5 -4 l / day ). Its a direct connection between orals and rhab ?
many thanks

[AD]

do you mean DOMS?

[PrideR]

no. i mean xttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhabdomyolysis

[lovbyts]

There is a direct connection between orals and possible liver damage or kidney function and that's why we always recommend taking liver support supplements such as Liv52, milk thistle, TUDCA and/or NAC

It sounds like you are probably over diagnosing yourself but if you think not then I would defiantly check with a doctor.

[jimmyinkedup]

I took methyltren and ended up in the hospital with rhabdomyolosis and first stages of renal failure. This was back in hmmm 07 i believe, Never took m tren again - never had an issue before that or since. It should also be mentioned i was on high odses of anti inflammatories - which are very harsh on the kidneys for those that do not know. Im sure it was the combo. I no longer take high amounts of ibuprophen or naproxen and i def dont mess with mtren anymore.

[AD]

no. i mean xttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhabdomyolysis

What are your symptoms?

[AD]

I took methyltren and ended up in the hospital with rhabdomyolosis and first stages of renal failure. This was back in hmmm 07 i believe, Never took m tren again - never had an issue before that or since. It should also be mentioned i was on high odses of anti inflammatories - which are very harsh on the kidneys for those that do not know. Im sure it was the combo. I no longer take high amounts of ibuprophen or naproxen and i def dont mess with mtren anymore.

What were your symptoms Jimmy?

[jimmyinkedup]

What were your symptoms Jimmy?

I was at the gym and was taking to a nurse. Telling her I was feeling like crap. She said I looked like i was retaining fuilds. She prssed on my thigh and watched how long it took for color to return to skin and then promptly called a Dr she knew. Said something liek it took x # of seconds and I was retaining a ton of fluids. He said I should go to ER - she really emephasized it was important so I did. They did tests and thats when it was discovered.

[AD]

I was at the gym and was taking to a nurse. Telling her I was feeling like crap. She said I looked like i was retaining fuilds. She prssed on my thigh and watched how long it took for color to return to skin and then promptly called a Dr she knew. Said something liek it took x # of seconds and I was retaining a ton of fluids. He said I should go to ER - she really emephasized it was important so I did. They did tests and thats when it was discovered.

No pain? Just fatigue and water retention? And was the nurse hot?

[jimmyinkedup]

Oh there was pain. Not as bad as when I recently got a kidney infection several months ago. I could barely stand from that - this was more like a nagging discomfort i couldnt distinguish from lower back injury or strain. The kidney infection i felt very low in my back and literally had to crawl to bathroom and pull myself on to toilet where i promptly pissed dark brown. THAT was pain. This was apparently caught early (the rhabdo)- which im told was a good thing because in fact my kidneys could have been permanently damaged had it not been (or so I was told)

[austinite]

Oh there was pain. Not as bad as when I recently got a kidney infection several months ago. I could barely stand from that - this was more like a nagging discomfort i couldnt distinguish from lower back injury or strain. The kidney infection i felt very low in my back and literally had to crawl to bathroom and pull myself on to toilet where i promptly pissed dark brown. THAT was pain. This was apparently caught early (the rhabdo)- which im told was a good thing because in fact my kidneys could have been permanently damaged had it not been (or so I was told)

wow jimmy. Glad you recovered. Pretty scary. Makes "PIP" comments silly.

[AD]

Oh there was pain. Not as bad as when I recently got a kidney infection several months ago. I could barely stand from that - this was more like a nagging discomfort i couldnt distinguish from lower back injury or strain. The kidney infection i felt very low in my back and literally had to crawl to bathroom and pull myself on to toilet where i promptly pissed dark brown. THAT was pain. This was apparently caught early (the rhabdo)- which im told was a good thing because in fact my kidneys could have been permanently damaged had it not been (or so I was told)

So it seems like it was mostly the kidney failure symptoms, with the rhabdo diagnosed on blood test.

I wonder what is op experiencing.

[jimmyinkedup]

wow jimmy. Glad you recovered. Pretty scary. Makes "PIP" comments silly.

Yeah I dont wish that one on anybody. Thanks brother - Im glad I recovered too man!

[PrideR]

What are your symptoms?

I had kidney pain, coke urine and muscle cramps. Believe it or not I drank 2L of non-alcoholic beer and my urine color came back to normal.
So everyone should be careful when running orals!

[jimmyinkedup]

So it seems like it was mostly the kidney failure symptoms, with the rhabdo diagnosed on blood test.

Id say thats prob exactly right AD.

[AD]

I had kidney pain, coke urine and muscle cramps. Believe it or not I drank 2L of non-alcoholic beer and my urine color came back to normal.
So everyone should be careful when running orals!

did you see a doctor? blood and urine tests?

[schon]

Yeah, go see a damn doctor to make sure you're ok.

[PrideR]

managed to get checked. urine test is OK. Waiting for bloodwork !

[Bonaparte]

I had kidney pain, coke urine and muscle cramps. Believe it or not I drank 2L of non-alcoholic beer and my urine color came back to normal.
So everyone should be careful when running orals!

That sounds like a backpump, dehydration, and normal musle cramps associated with orals. Nothig to do with rhabdomyalisis.