deca and test e for first cycle..good choice?

**Gates1234** · 04-22-2013, 07:36 PM

height 5'6..weight 175.. bf 12% 250mg deca a week 600 mg test .. running deca 12 weeks test 14..i got pct down any advice?

**The Titan99** · 04-22-2013, 07:41 PM

Drop the Deca , but if you'd read anything you'd know this would be the first thing you would be told.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-22-2013, 07:45 PM

I would not touch anything for a few years bro. You looking for trouble if you begin messing with your Endocrine System now at 20 years of age. Trust me, this is not a wise decision.

I think a little more reading and research would benefit you, particularly for someone your age. Your natural testosterone levels are sky high right now. I would concentrate on taking advantage of that as you can make tremendous gains in following few short years.

It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS.

Its also important to understand what it is your putting into your body and the associated roles these compounds play, and the dreaded side effects that are bound to creep up on you - especially if you didn’t do your homework. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more..

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**Gates1234** · 04-22-2013, 07:45 PM

if I drop deca should I run test e or test 400 for first time im starting into my second week in 3 days already pin deca once I have both test just decided to use e

BG · 04-22-2013, 07:53 PM

Just run one, get a basic cycle under your belt. See what you think about pct and how you feel after. Then take some time to decide if this is for you.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-22-2013, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by BG

Just run one, get a basic cycle under your belt. See what you think about pct and how you feel after. Then take some time to decide if this is for you.

The OP is 20 years old - not sure if you are aware of that. If you are, disregard.

BG · 04-22-2013, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

The OP is 20 years old - not sure if you are aware of that. If you are, disregard.

He already started.........

**Gates1234** · 04-22-2013, 08:04 PM

I have been working out since I was 16.. good diet.. but im not seeing much gains at all so I decided to try a cycle to progress and see where I stand after..

**MickeyKnox** · 04-22-2013, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by BG

He already started.........

Originally Posted by Gates1234

if I drop deca should I run test e or test 400 for first time im starting into my second week in 3 days already pin deca once I have both test just decided to use e

Very easy for him to back out, imho.

OP i hope you reconsider and hold off on this cycle and educate yourself on the potential harm you can do to your Endocrine System at an early age.

My .02

BG · 04-22-2013, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Gates1234

I have been working out since I was 16.. good diet.. but im not seeing much gains at all so I decided to try a cycle to progress and see where I stand after..

Suppressing you natural hormones at your age is the last think you want to do. Your not going to feel the same after, pct is going to suck.

BG · 04-22-2013, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Very easy for him to back out, imho.

OP i hope you reconsider and hold off on this cycle and educate yourself on the potential harm you can do to your Endocrine System at an early age.

My .02

I agree 100%, but in all my days Ive never seen anyone stop mid cycle, they just go away. Hopefully he will stay and we can guide him through a good pct.

**kelkel** · 04-22-2013, 08:14 PM

Have you done any blood work?

You should post your diet in the nutrition forum for the guru's to go over. Most "good diets" really aren't quite good enough. This takes time.

BG · 04-22-2013, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Have you done any blood work?

You should post your diet in the nutrition forum for the guru's to go over. Most "good diets" really aren't quite good enough. This takes time.

Very true and most of the real good diets arent even good lol.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-22-2013, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by BG

I agree 100%, but in all my days Ive never seen anyone stop mid cycle, they just go away. Hopefully he will stay and we can guide him through a good pct.

Ive done it here several times. And in fact ive seen MI do it and others including CapeBuffalo, Marcus, Austin, Pete, and a few others im likely forgetting.

Stay positive my friend. They dont all leave.

**Gates1234** · 04-22-2013, 08:23 PM

I eat around 3500 cals mainly red meats .. or baked food and brown rice...I have around 5 meals a day and I take rebuild mass as a protein product 3 scoops a day and have a muscle mild half through my workouts se besides just food I take in around 4200 cals a day

**OnTheSauce** · 04-22-2013, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Gates1234

I eat around 3500 cals mainly red meats .. or baked food and brown rice...I have around 5 meals a day and I take rebuild mass as a protein product 3 scoops a day and have a muscle mild half through my workouts se besides just food I take in around 4200 cals a day

This sounds like guessing and you don't actually track them.