Test E and SuperDrol cycle help

**Syztem** · 04-22-2013, 11:41 PM

Currently in week 3
Weeks 1-14 600mg test e
Weeks 3-7 SuperDrol 50mg (just started)
Weeks 4-14 hcg 250iu twice a week
AI?
Weeks 16-20 PCT: nolva/clomid

27yo
5'7
160lb
11%bf

Not a first cycle but last gear was underdosed.

This cycle my goal is to gain as much as possible and shed bf down last couple weeks.

Adding hcg at 250 iu twice a week starting next week and my issue as this point is an ai. I have arimidex on hand and can dose at .25 mg eod but I have been hearing a lot about aromasin . Friend of a friend advised me to take 12.5mg eod instead. I do not know dosing and I do not want to risk anything without asking the experts. What is best for my cycle?

**stpete** · 04-22-2013, 11:55 PM

Take your arimidex at .25 EOD. That should be fine. Aromasin 's better ED but at a lower dose. Of course, these can be adjusted accordingly.

**auswest** · 04-23-2013, 12:02 AM

Personally I would drop the prohormones, no need for it, and that is a rather high dose of superdrol too.

**West Coast Winner** · 04-23-2013, 12:04 AM

I'm looking to add SuperDrol to my next cycle I plan to start any day now. Mines very similar to yours, just test so far, I have similar stats to you. Would be interested to see some b4 pics to compare your end results to. Should upload some

Also, I pmed you.

**stpete** · 04-23-2013, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by West Coast Winner

I'm looking to add SuperDrol to my next cycle I plan to start any day now. Mines very similar to yours, just test so far, I have similar stats to you. Would be interested to see some b4 pics to compare your end results to. Should upload some

Also, I pmed you.

You need to eat.

**West Coast Winner** · 04-23-2013, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by stpete

You need to eat.

Thanks. I'm trying hard.

**Syztem** · 04-23-2013, 06:44 AM

How would I dose aromasin ? 6.25 Ed? I was told the fact that aromasin is a suicide inhibitor makes it far superior and there is no rebound. I have access to 25mg caps but Not sure as to dose it. My man told me just take a 25mg cap every 5 days. That sounds like terrible advise?

**Syztem** · 04-24-2013, 12:43 AM

Anyone? Aromasin dosage for my stats size and gear?

**West Coast Winner** · 04-24-2013, 12:47 AM

Just use dex

**Syztem** · 04-24-2013, 01:55 AM

If in some instance I would like to use aromasin what would be proper to use for a cycle like this?

**West Coast Winner** · 04-26-2013, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Syztem

If in some instance I would like to use aromasin what would be proper to use for a cycle like this?

Well you need to choose one or the other and stick with it. I considered Aromasin as well, however I'm going with dex. To be honest, I forgot why. I think it had something to do with water retention. I'd do liquidex, the taste isn't bad at all, from ARR it's minty lol.

**RaW InStiNcTz** · 04-26-2013, 04:57 PM

Just be sure to use Clomid rather than Nolva, if you want better info on Aromasin check out "unofficial PCT dose" or something to that reference on the PCT forum there is a section where he talks about a PH PCT pretty good.

**BBJT200** · 04-26-2013, 05:12 PM

I like Aromasin at 25mg ED. or 12.5mg 2x/day...that is optimal.
Your dose of SD is high. I would strongly recommend 30mg tops.

**West Coast Winner** · 04-27-2013, 02:04 AM

Pct should be nolva, clomid, and hcg

**Syztem** · 07-10-2013, 04:25 PM

Cycle finished after 12 weeks

Gained 22lbs and undocumented gains in strength, the strength gains were beyond significant and plateaued once the SuperDrol was finished. Gained significant muscle mass, also some gut but nothing easy to work off and shred up.

Diet went to hell, limited myself from poor eating habits... I basically ate everything and anything I had in front of me and it was never enough.

Getting ready for pct 2 weeks after last inject.
Torem: 120, 90, 60, 30, 30
clomid: 50, 50, 50, 50,25

Is this going to be good? It's a first time running torem, nolva sides are terrible for me. Please help with my pct layout.

**ChevyTruckRedneck** · 07-10-2013, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by auswest

Personally I would drop the prohormones, no need for it, and that is a rather high dose of superdrol too.

superdrol is not a prohormone.

yeah way too high of dose. you will be peeing blood before the 4 weeks is done. 30mg is an extremely high dose. 50 is asking for it

**Syztem** · 07-10-2013, 04:59 PM

That was wrong dose lol! It was 15mg with another 25 of another. It was a stack a friend got before the ban, he ended up being allergic to one of the side ingredients and gave it to me. I was thinking win when I wrote this.

**Syztem** · 08-04-2013, 01:33 PM

Update. 2.5 weeks into pct. Lost 8lbs so far.
Torem 120/90/60/60/30
Clomid 100/50/50/50
over did it first couple days on clomid at 150mg. The sides were pure emotional chaos. Shit is depressing. So far 2.5 weeks in my libido is still just coming back. I am generally horny and still bang my girl but can't without a cialis and levitra stack or something outrageous. My load size is practically nonexistent. The balls are back tho but uncertain as to why the libido is so low and the load so small on clomid. My girls like, why don't u cum anymore? It's pretty sad.

From experience, hcg is imperative during cycle 250 to 300 iu 2x weekly from the start to assist in proper recovery. Maybe would of helped retain another couple lbs. The pct did get my balls back to size fairly quick but not to full function yet. Still better than my experience with nolva.

SuperDrol was incredibly suppressive but the gains in both size and strength were incredible. Was a good stack. Probably better to be on a sus with it rather than test e alone.

Please give me any feedback and advice for future reference. Maybe something to get the balls brewing again.

**brazuka** · 08-04-2013, 02:15 PM

You went from 160lbs to 182lbs in 14 weeks with test + superdrol which is a hell of a drug... by week 16.5 you are back down to 176. So 16lb gain in 16.5 weeks = 1lb a week gained on aas and that's if you don't keep dropping weight since you are just over halfway done with pct... I think you could have done that naturally bro if you were eating enough 1lb a week isn't hard to do, seriously man get to eating so you can at least keep what you have now!!

**BluPhin** · 08-04-2013, 03:04 PM

Lol, never heard of anybody quantifying their load size before. Do you do this volumetrically or gravitimetrically? Lol

**Syztem** · 08-04-2013, 06:53 PM

Diet and lack of time training is an issue. Unfortunately work is busy and money is good. Much more potential in this cycle. Load size is questionable lol, it's quantified in reactions. Ugh nobody has an issue with this one apparently. What good is a great body if the meat hammer has lost its edge. Obviously if it doesn't return by end of pct I am going to doctor.

**BluPhin** · 08-05-2013, 06:59 PM

So your wife/gf actually reacts to your load size?? I have never had this happen to me in 32+ years of shooting loads. I think I would be speechless if my wife/gf told me my load was sub-par. Honestly, sometimes I come on this forum looking for a laugh and if I look hard enough I'm never disappointed lol

**Syztem** · 08-07-2013, 08:00 PM

Lol it went from a mouthful on cycle to why don't u cum anymore. This is apparently not normal for pct. Any suggestions to get the body back on track?

**BluPhin** · 08-08-2013, 04:26 PM

Ok, I see. You went from having a load to not having a load. My advice is go see a urologist. Something is wrong beyond the effects of AAS. I had a vasectomy and I still have a load. And my plumbing is disconnected.

**OnTheSauce** · 08-08-2013, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by BluPhin

Ok, I see. You went from having a load to not having a load. My advice is go see a urologist. Something is wrong beyond the effects of AAS. I had a vasectomy and I still have a load. And my plumbing is disconnected.

Mine is much smaller and a lot thicker except the days I take hcg