tren ? worth it ?

**canuckle87** · 04-23-2013, 12:13 PM

As a bulking and leaning aas. ?

Is it worth it to add tren to the mix ? What kind of gains are we looking at keeping after a solid pct afterwards ?

**tommygunn1980** · 04-23-2013, 12:26 PM

Does both bulks and cuts but needs to be ran with test and pct has to be spot on also tren isn't for everyone and also the sides affect everyone diff the sides can be unbearable for some lucky for me the only side I get is the sweats

**Rwy** · 04-23-2013, 12:27 PM

I am really curious also is it worth the sides.

I was going to try for first time this summer but I am pretty happy with where I am at. Was thinking maybe next year.

**Capebuffalo** · 04-23-2013, 12:35 PM

What is your experience with aas?

**FONZY007** · 04-23-2013, 12:41 PM

I was dumb when I was younger and used it by it self with the only sides being insomnia... Used it at a low dose I believe at 200-300mg a week for 6-8 weeks.. It cut me up...

Again I don't advise this I was young and dumb and took what ever the dealer had

**ScotchGuard02** · 04-23-2013, 12:49 PM

Cape's got a good question. If you don't have a lot of experience with AAS. You might want to skip the Tren . It takes a number of AAS cycles to see how your HPTA reacts to the shutting down and starting back up. Tren will surely shut you down really hard. If your body's not used to this it could shut down and not start up normally. This happened to me and I thought I had cycled enough Test to know my body. It scared me because I've normally dealt with progesterone not prolactin. It was a learning experience. Be safe. Take things slow.

**canuckle87** · 04-23-2013, 01:57 PM

I have had experience with eq right Now I am running cyp and Winnie. I am just about to finish the first 10mp of cyp and need to grab more. Maybe was thinking about skipping the tren and grab some EQ

**Granovich** · 04-23-2013, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

Cape's got a good question. If you don't have a lot of experience with AAS. You might want to skip the Tren. It takes a number of AAS cycles to see how your HPTA reacts to the shutting down and starting back up. Tren will surely shut you down really hard. If your body's not used to this it could shut down and not start up normally. This happened to me and I thought I had cycled enough Test to know my body. It scared me because I've normally dealt with progesterone not prolactin. It was a learning experience. Be safe. Take things slow.

do you think recovery from tren acetate is harder than NPP
or all nandrones are the same recovery wise ? ( keeping in mind proper HCG protocol, ai, prolactin antagonist ( cabergoline) and Solid PCT )

**clarky.** · 04-23-2013, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Granovich

do you think recovery from tren acetate is harder than NPP
or all nandrones are the same recovery wise ? ( keeping in mind proper HCG protocol, ai, prolactin antagonist ( cabergoline) and Solid PCT )

Good Q granovich.

**canuckle87** · 04-23-2013, 02:34 PM

My experience was a few cycles a few years back but I was way to young and didn't do anything properly. My body reacts pretty decent to test. No acne. No aggression. Increase libido but that's about it.
I think I can handle tren . But insomnia and sweats worry me. Basically what I'm asking is the juice going to be worth the squeeze ? What are your experiences with running tren?
M
BTW stats are 5'11. 210lbs. 25 years old. About 18%bf.

**clarky.** · 04-23-2013, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by canuckle87

My experience was a few cycles a few years back but I was way to young and didn't do anything properly. My body reacts pretty decent to test. No acne. No aggression. Increase libido but that's about it.
I think I can handle tren . But insomnia and sweats worry me. Basically what I'm asking is the juice going to be worth the squeeze ? What are your experiences with running tren?
M

BTW stats are 5'11. 210lbs. 25 years old. About 18%bf.

Mine is bad sweats can't sleep no nrg lethatgic but good gains ran 2 tren cycles in the past but a think i will use it again lol.

**Papa Smurf** · 04-23-2013, 03:07 PM

Diet decides bulk or cut, not the gear

I suggest you read more on your own......

There's a great Tren thread on here..............

Post up your proposed diet while on cycle and we can help you better

**ghettoboyd** · 04-23-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by canuckle87

I have had experience with eq right Now I am running cyp and Winnie. I am just about to finish the first 10mp of cyp and need to grab more. Maybe was thinking about skipping the tren and grab some EQ

bro, why not grab another vial of cyp instead of thinking that more compounds=more gains...keep it simple buddy...you should have bought enough to run a complete cycle to begin with...what are you going to do if your "guy" doesn't have and test to sell you?...do you have a pct lined up?...

**ironbeck** · 04-23-2013, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

bro, why not grab another vial of cyp instead of thinking that more compounds=more gains...keep it simple buddy...you should have bought enough to run a complete cycle to begin with...what are you going to do if your "guy" doesn't have and test to sell you?...do you have a pct lined up?...

Of course he does not...he took a 10ml vial and said ill give this a try..........I'll figure out the rest later.

**canuckle87** · 04-23-2013, 04:13 PM

I'm a full time student and can't afford everything at once smart guy.

He has more. I just spoke with him.

That's what I was thinking was just sticking with the test.

The pct is clomid and nova.

**wrcat** · 04-23-2013, 04:14 PM

I'd find a new guy asap. You should never start a cycle without you PC in hand. You risk not doing a PC. That will cause you to lose all your gains and waste money. Not to mention...this whole thread looks very sloppy. Very unorganized. Get it together Brah. Research is key.

**wrcat** · 04-23-2013, 04:18 PM

This sport isn't cheap. Maybe you should focus on diet more if money is tight. I spend $500 per month on food. More during a bulk. Gear isn't cheap man. If it can't be done correctly, it shouldn't be done. Not being a dick. Just being honest. Its your body. Don't make mistakes you may not be able to fix.

**Granovich** · 04-23-2013, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by canuckle87

I'm a full time student and can't afford everything at once smart guy.

He has more. I just spoke with him.

That's what I was thinking was just sticking with the test.

The pct is clomid and nova.

u should have saved up and bought enough and little extra as well...
plus all pct and ai and hcg
i bought double the amount for cycle. incase i drop a vial or lose some liquid
u cant be too careful

**human project** · 04-23-2013, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by canuckle87

As a bulking and leaning aas. ?

Is it worth it to add tren to the mix ? What kind of gains are we looking at keeping after a solid pct afterwards ?

I would only use it for contest prep bc of how hard it is on your body, mood, outlook on life, the way you treat everyone around you, the sleepless nights, the night sweats, did I mention the way you treat everyone around you.... It's an amazing drug but only in extreme moderation... What are your goals and plans for the cycle?? I feel gains from tren are hard to keep bc most of the gains are not in sheer size as much as how hard and aggressive it makes you "which makes you strong as hell while your taking it" other milder drugs I find to be more effective for keeping gains which make them better for times when not getting ready for a competiton

**oatmeal69** · 04-23-2013, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by canuckle87

I have had experience with eq right Now I am running cyp and Winnie. I am just about to finish the first 10mp of cyp and need to grab more. Maybe was thinking about skipping the tren and grab some EQ

EQ is worthless. One can't even put it in the same ball park with tren . It's like comparing a toy matchbox car to a NHRA top fuel dragster.

**Antonious** · 04-23-2013, 06:21 PM

EQ is more of a cutting drug, it gives you -400-500 cals deficit. Alone. Test + tren gives you 400-500 but its 2 drugs vs 1.

**canuckle87** · 04-23-2013, 06:24 PM

I think with all this info tren isn't for me. I don't want to be a bodybuilding from this cycle. Just smash heads every once in a while. I feel another thing of cyp and grab NY pct this next pickup will be the smartest thing. Thanks guys for the opinions.

**oatmeal69** · 04-23-2013, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Antonious

EQ is more of a cutting drug, it gives you -400-500 cals deficit. Alone. Test + tren gives you 400-500 but its 2 drugs vs 1.

What???

**Papa Smurf** · 04-23-2013, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by oatmeal69

What???

^ My thoughts...............

**Capebuffalo** · 04-23-2013, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Antonious

EQ is more of a cutting drug, it gives you -400-500 cals deficit. Alone. Test + tren gives you 400-500 but its 2 drugs vs 1.

Can you elaborate on this for me please?

**Papa Smurf** · 04-23-2013, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Can you elaborate on this for me please?

I know Im on the edge of my keyboard waiting on this reply!!

Whatup Big C ??

**Lunk1** · 04-23-2013, 07:08 PM

This thread is chock full of bad information. If you are not 100% sure of WTF you are talking about then please refrain from handing out confusing, incorrect and sometimes harmful advice!!! Thank you!!!!

**Antonious** · 04-23-2013, 07:10 PM

lol my bad, i messed it all up. EQ combined with prop gives you 500 cals increase in BMR, tren alone will give you that.

**Capebuffalo** · 04-23-2013, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

I know Im on the edge of my keyboard waiting on this reply!!

Whatup Big C ??

The answer is in. And. Oh no.

**Lunk1** · 04-23-2013, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Antonious

lol my bad, i messed it all up. EQ combined with prop gives you 500 cals increase in BMR, tren alone will give you that.

I ahve never seen a BMR calculator that determines your BMR based on different compounds. Can I ask where you got this info from??

**Capebuffalo** · 04-23-2013, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Antonious

lol my bad, i messed it all up. EQ combined with prop gives you 500 cals increase in BMR, tren alone will give you that.

How is that possible ? Please tell me the science behind it. This is new to me.

**Capebuffalo** · 04-23-2013, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I ahve never seen a BMR calculator that determines your BMR based on different compounds. Can I ask where you got this info from??

What happened to the like button. I like.

**Antonious** · 04-23-2013, 07:15 PM

that what my brother in law was doing in his years. He was testing his BMR on cycle vs pre

**Capebuffalo** · 04-23-2013, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Antonious

that what my brother in law was doing in his years. He was testing his BMR on cycle vs pre

Your giving the info out. Please explain how it works.

**Papa Smurf** · 04-23-2013, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Antonious

that what my brother in law was doing in his years. He was testing his BMR on cycle vs pre

Ok............ Im back to WHAT?

Your brother in law?? Your giving advice based on what your brother in law use to do??

Give me a break!!!

**Lunk1** · 04-23-2013, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Antonious

that what my brother in law was doing in his years. He was testing his BMR on cycle vs pre

Understand that this would be about as individual based as metabilism.

**Lunk1** · 04-23-2013, 07:20 PM

Like button is hit and miss...WTH????

**Antonious** · 04-23-2013, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

Ok............ Im back to WHAT?

Your brother in law?? Your giving advice based on what your brother in law use to do??

Give me a break!!!

Get off your rage I was not suggesting something, at first I did not make myself clear, and corrected myself minute later, and stated that this was coming from my bro in law who was in this 12 years ago. It's up to you what you collect off internet. you have any more problems?

**Capebuffalo** · 04-23-2013, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Antonious

Get off your rage I was not suggesting something, at first I did not make myself clear, and corrected myself minute later, and stated that this was coming from my bro in law who was in this 12 years ago. It's up to you what you collect off internet. you have any more problems?

I do. You have a poor attitude