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04-23-2013, 04:21 PM #1
Hey guys I've been thinking about doing a cycle of some sort and by my research I've came to the conclusion that Anavar is one of the most mild aas compared to others. I'm no expert but this is just what I've read. When I say mild I don't mean effectiveness I mean in the sense of side effects and liver toxicity. Would you reccomend an Anavar only cycle compared to a test e only cycle for a begginer?
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04-23-2013, 04:29 PM #2
No, need test on any cycle.
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04-23-2013, 04:30 PM #3Originally Posted by ppwc1985
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04-23-2013, 04:34 PM #4
I wouldn't recommend it, but it is prob the only worthwhile oral only cycle.
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04-23-2013, 04:38 PM #5
Age? Workout History? Stats?
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04-23-2013, 04:39 PM #6Originally Posted by EKFitness
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04-24-2013, 02:37 AM #7Banned
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Anavar is NOT a mild compound where HPTA suppression/shutdown is concerned!!
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04-24-2013, 04:19 AM #8Junior Member
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Thanks Mickey for the link. Good stuff.
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Anytime bro.
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04-24-2013, 06:47 PM #10
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04-25-2013, 12:50 AM #11
as someone who has run a couple var only cycles... yes you can run var only. unfortunately the status quo here is you cant. I have had very successful var only cycles gaining a very lean 8lbs, good strength gains and vascularity, next to zero sides and very little shutdown. no estrogen worries, no hair loss concerns.
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04-25-2013, 02:07 AM #12Originally Posted by ata1979
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04-25-2013, 02:13 AM #13Originally Posted by ata1979
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not everyone gets shut down hard. nearby everyone in my gym is cycling now, 500 test ew, deca winstrol tren etc, and nobody doesn't even know whats a PCT. the most of them won't get shutdown, most of them don't even get gyno, actually only 2 guys got gyno, and obviously nobody knows whats an AI.
so for a couple of pills of anavar , I don''t think you'll get shutdown, nor livertoxicity, but If you ask me, I wouldn't risk that. some say to add proviron for better libido, but its up to you, I wouldn't try that.
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It doesn't cause total shutdown, I know some one in the middle of a tren , var, test cycle at high mg and he just knocked his girl up...so much for total shutdown.
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04-26-2013, 12:42 AM #16
@justo
What I mean by the statue quo is that most members knock var cause its an oral and believe that every cycle must include test in it. I think that var is the exception to that rule and could be run by itself.
@panntastic
Total shutdown? dude, I think your dealer must have given you something else and said it was var if you got totally shutdown or your body is super sensitive.
I'm not saying var does not shut you down alittle but compared to others its very mild in that aspect.
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04-26-2013, 04:26 AM #17
a test only cycle would have less sides than a var only cycle...
your body produces testosterone naturally, i don't think it makes oxandrolone naturally...
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04-26-2013, 07:31 AM #18
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04-26-2013, 09:47 AM #19
Please do not listen to this guy. Anavar will shut you down and does require a PCT. the fact that guys in his gym are getting gyno is that they are uneducated to the proper use of AAS. No one should get gyno on cycle unles they have failed to control estrogen/prolactin.
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04-26-2013, 09:54 AM #20
What is a 'little shutdown'? Is shutdown not shutdown? How can you be less shutdown than shutdown if you are shutdown?
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04-26-2013, 10:06 AM #21
I've personally taken Anavar only cycles in the past. I have never been Flacid on any of them. I have personally NEVER been shutdown.
People need to understand that some of these tests are one subject, they see one test and think oh that's how it is for everyone. Not everyone responds the same way to every compound. Unless you have taken an anavar only cycle yourself and seen how it has affected you then you really shouldn't respond because you have no first hand knowledge.
Now to the guy above, you DEFINITELY need PCT on ANY cycle, just to be safe.
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04-26-2013, 10:13 AM #22
Anavar will either suppress or " shutdown" your HPTA no matter what!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's dose and individual dependant. Suppression to some level is a guarantee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh...and for the idiot that said guys are running 500mg of test and all the other shyt and not being shut down. Please refrain from posting absolute false claims
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04-26-2013, 12:14 PM #23
I will speak from personal experience here. I did an Anavar only cycle, it was my first cycle. I shredded very little fat and was a bit more vascular however it wasn't worth it. It could have been done with a bit more dedication to a cleaner diet and increased cardio. I think it's a waste of a cycle to run such a mild compound like anavar, you just have to get over the fact that if you want real results you're gonna have to pin. You can plan your cycle so you only have to pin a couple times a week with longer esters. And yes, anavar will suppress your HPTA it sure did for me. I would highly suggest not to run it without test.
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