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    seriouslifter is offline Member
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    Prop/NPP - What oral?

    I want to do a lean bulk cycle for the fall/winter. I feel short cycles are the best with short esters. Long esters and long cycles bloat me, but i know that depends on diet also. im not going to increase cals so high this time. should i lower the npp dosage? Do I need to stop deca before prop? Is 8 weeks too short on npp? I have ran deca at 400mg week. I want to add in a oral. Tbol? Var? Winny? Dbol ? Should i run it the last 4-6 weeks or beginning?

    wk 1-8 - npp 100mg EOD
    wk 1-8 - prop 100mg EOD


    PCT (3 days after last test injection )
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolv 40/40/20/20

    Aromasin @ 12.5mg ED or ldex at .25mg EOD if not enough bump to .5mg ED
    If I can get HCG , I will do 1-8 250iu 2x a week (M/TH)

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    bumpp

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    Hey man. 734 posts, surely you know the first question here

    Stats?
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    Can you give us your stats and some back ground on your cycles?

    I like your cycle, very basic and productive. If I was going to pick an oral for that stack for your goals it would be either var or winny

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    5'11 225ish prob 18%, but im cutting now so going to drop bf. i have done 6 or so cycles now. prop, tren , winny, dbol , test enth, test cypo, eq, deca . for a lean bulk you think var or winny? should i add that at beginning or end of cycle? 4-6 weeks? are those 2 compounds pretty much the same, but var is more expensive and safer?

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    I would make sure my body fat was at or under 12% with the winny or you won't really see much in the way of results. It won't lower your bf%. No experience with var so I can't speak to that. I really don't like winny. Seemed to dry out my joints

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    8 weeks is ok for NPP. I'd add winny for 4-5 weeks starting at 3rd or 2nd week respectively.
    var is for girls

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