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    next cycle. updated. few questions

    So my original cycle idea was sust/tren for 12 to 14 weeks but sadly my guy doesnt get either anymore so im switching to test e, deca , dbol and heres the plan.


    40ml test e @250mg
    30ml deca @200mg
    100 tabs dbol 10mg

    Was going to set it up like this

    Week 1-14 test e @ 750mg per week.
    Week 1-12 deca @ 400mg per week.
    Week 1-4 dbol @ 30 mg daily

    I have arimadex
    2 bottles of hcg 5000iu
    Clomid
    Nolva

    Do i start my hcg 2 weeks before my last pin or 1 week after since its a 3 week ester.. plus how much and often should i take arimadex? I see dif numbers everywhere.

    So any suggestions tips to make my cycle perfect would be appreciated.

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    5'8'' and a half
    192lbs
    12.3% bf
    4th true cycle

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    I would run th HCG from the start. Maybe starting week 2 or 3 since you're going with long esters. 250iu pinned subcutaneously 2x a week

    As for the adex, I would start it at .25mg EoD
    Are you taking a DA for prolactin related sides? Or at least have it on hand

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    I do not. What should i buy

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    Caber is the most recommended. Prami also works starting at .25mg a night. Taken before bed because it can cause some nasty nausea.
    You can also just take B6 around 5-600mg / day along with the adex and PROBABLY be fine, however I would never recommend doing this without at least having some prami/caber ON HAND just in case

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    These are very basic questions for your fourth cycle. Please list previous cycles. Thank you

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    Ok. If caber is the strongest then thats what il buy. Is it easily attainable or should i go to ar-r ?

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    Why does your profile say 23?
    When are you going to run this cycle. You were running prop in February.
    Last edited by Capebuffalo; 04-24-2013 at 09:57 AM.

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    First cycle 535mg weekly sust 12 weeks. No ai simple clomid nolva pct.

    2nd cycle. Sust 535mg weekly tren ace 75mg eod. Hcg last 2 weeks arimadex during nolva clomid pct

    3rd cycle test prop 600mg weekly 14 weeks. Didnt get as good of results so upping my doses for this cycle

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    Im 25 in 2 days. April 26 1988. And mid may, giving myself a 3month downtime

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    Caber isn't stable as a liquid, no research chem places will carry it, and if they do its likely not legit. AR-R does sell a liquid prami though

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokr View Post
    First cycle 535mg weekly sust 12 weeks. No ai simple clomid nolva pct.

    2nd cycle. Sust 535mg weekly tren ace 75mg eod. Hcg last 2 weeks arimadex during nolva clomid pct

    3rd cycle test prop 600mg weekly 14 weeks. Didnt get as good of results so upping my doses for this cycle
    2nd cycle
    Tren is a 19nor just the same as Deca . You didn't use prolactin control for that cycle?
    3rd
    That's a good bit of prop weekly, and for almost twice as long as necessary. Short esters like that won't produce the same results at the end of a longer cycle as they do in the beginning. That's why prop cycles are usually recommended to be run for 8 weeks...

    Diet controls gains more than any AAS will

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    Ya i was uninformed. My diet and lifting is pretty much perfect. Im a pt

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