Second Cycle HELP!

[retsnomteeks]

I just got done with my frist cycle about a month ago and looking into doing a second in the near future. For my first cylce all I did was Sustanon 250 at 1mL (.5mL on Thursday and .5mL on Monday) a week weighing at 145lb and almost halfway through my cycle I bumped it up to 2mL a week. Near the end I started to ween myself off and started to take a PCT with a week left of my cycle and now I only have one more week of my PCT. I weigh 165lb now.

Im thinking about a second cycle and was going to do D-bol stacking with sustanon 250, hCG , clomi and nolvadex . I was wondering if this was the right route to go? Any suggestions? Im looking to get to the 175-185 mark.

Thanks,

Jake

[Cparrino]

just curious what does the nolvadex do for you? just trying to broaden my horizons. ive seen the name around but dnt know alot about it.

[mikey hulk]

Stats please

[MickeyKnox]

Stats please

Age
Height
Weight
Body Fat %
Previous AAS exp.
Lifting Exp

Attachment 137199

[retsnomteeks]

24
6 ft
165lb
13% body fat
Lifting experience is 2 yrs
Sustanon 250 1 cycle

[MickeyKnox]

You're 6ft 165lbs after this cycle?? What did you weigh before you started?

[retsnomteeks]

I was scrawny lol i weighed 145lb before and weigh 165lb now.

[Capebuffalo]

Ÿou started your pct the last week of your cycle? Did I read that right?

[retsnomteeks]

yes. I started the PCT the last week of my cycle

[MickeyKnox]

Do you realize that even after this cycle and gaining 20lbs, you're still too light to cycle?

It's very important that the next 20lbs you put on is done naturally. That way you know you will keep most of it. Basically, you are nowhere near you genetic potential. And it wouldn't surprise me if you lost most of what you just gained. Money and hard work out the window because you lacked a solid mucsle base and foundation.

You first need to build some solid dense muscle in order to maintain any new muscle. Then, you need to eat more to maintain your new muscle. It’s all about eating. Figure out your TDEE and up your cals at least 500 each day to gain some weight. Workout regularly and eat a high calorie clean balanced diet. There's no magic pill. The magic is EATING.

Post your intended diet here including macros and the pros in there will assist you in tweaking your diet to fit your intended goals. Good luck!


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[EKFitness]

yes. I started the PCT the last week of my cycle

if its a long ester u gotta wait a least 14 days, sometimes 21 is even better.

[EKFitness]

I think sus is 8 days tho

[Capebuffalo]

I would extend my pct. you started way too early. You may have a problem with recovery

[MickeyKnox]

I think sus is 8 days tho

21 days.

[retsnomteeks]

Ive had this solid diet since ive started working out...
Meal 1 - 8-10 eggs with a bagel
Meal 2 - Mass gainer shake
Meal 3 - 8oz chicken breast with rice and veggies
Meal 4 - Mass gainer shake with almonds
Meal 5 - greek yogurt
Meal 6 - Mass gainer shake before bed
and throughout the day im constanly eating bagels in between meals

[Capebuffalo]

Ive had this solid diet since ive started working out...
Meal 1 - 8-10 eggs with a bagel
Meal 2 - Mass gainer shake
Meal 3 - 8oz chicken breast with rice and veggies
Meal 4 - Mass gainer shake with almonds
Meal 5 - greek yogurt
Meal 6 - Mass gainer shake before bed
and throughout the day im constanly eating bagels in between meals

That my friend is not a solid diet. Drop the shakes and eat real food. What is your tdee? What is the macros above?

[retsnomteeks]

ok ill figure out some other way to supplement the shakes with food. what do you mean by tdee?

[Capebuffalo]

ok ill figure out some other way to supplement the shakes with food. what do you mean by tdee?

You have to know how much your body needs to lose maintain or grow. Go here and read and figure your tdee

http://forums.steroid.com/nutrition-...penditure.html

[retsnomteeks]

my tdee is 4598

[EKFitness]

21 days.

woof I was way off. was recalling something else. yeah now I see 18-30....kinda an odd range. there should be better studies done.

[MickeyKnox]

You have to know how much your body needs to lose maintain or grow. Go here and read and figure your tdee

http://forums.steroid.com/nutrition-...penditure.html

Your TDEE is 2150 approx.

(Cape, i did it quick using LBMX15)

[Capebuffalo]

Your TDEE is 2150 approx.

(Cape, i did it quick using LBMX15)

What did he use? Op do you know how many cals you eat a day?

[retsnomteeks]

any suggestions on a new diet plan? i use the shakes for a quick meal supplement due to my type of job

[Capebuffalo]

any suggestions on a new diet plan? i use the shakes for a quick meal supplement due to my type of job

Go to the nutrition section. Lay out your goals give your stats and ask for help.
The guys over there are great.

[retsnomteeks]

thank you guys for all your help and input! greatly appreciated

[Capebuffalo]

thank you guys for all your help and input! greatly appreciated

No problem. Learn to eat big and train hard you will be amazed at the results.