2nd Cycle Advice + Critques Needed

**Scys** · 04-26-2013, 05:38 PM

I am planning my 2nd cycle around July/August and was thinking about Test Prop + Tren Ace. I have been lurking around the forums for a while and read the sticky above about Tren so I was wondering if Test Prop 300mg and Tren Ace 225mg per week will produce great results for me on a 10 week cycle? I am currently 165 5'6 10% bodyfat, thanks!

Also my first cycle was the standard 500mg Test E per week.
-Edit- Dbol for 1st month too.

**pitchindude** · 04-26-2013, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Scys

I am planning my 2nd cycle around July/August and was thinking about Test Prop + Tren Ace. I have been lurking around the forums for a while and read the sticky above about Tren so I was wondering if Test Prop 300mg and Tren Ace 225mg per week will produce great results for me on a 10 week cycle? I am currently 165 5'6 10% bodyfat, thanks!

Also my first cycle was the standard 500mg Test E per week.

What was your first cycle?

And why so quick to jump to tren? It's some serious stuff man.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 06:38 PM

Welcome.

Age?

**Scys** · 04-26-2013, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by pitchindude

What was your first cycle?

And why so quick to jump to tren? It's some serious stuff man.

My 1st Cycle was 500mg Test E which I did almost 2 years ago, and I've heard great things about Tren !

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Welcome.

Age?

I will be turning 27 next week!

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 06:43 PM

Do you feel youve outgrown your first cycle two years ago?

**Scys** · 04-26-2013, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Do you feel youve outgrown your first cycle two years ago?

Yes. I also forgot to mention that I had Dbol for the first month of that cycle too.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Scys

Yes. I also forgot to mention that I had Dbol for the first month of that cycle too.

What were your stats before you cycled?

**Scys** · 04-26-2013, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

What were your stats before you cycled?

I was around 140~144. By the end of the cycle I was around 150.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 07:01 PM

Ok fair enough.

Cycle is fine to me. Make sure you have a solid AI included in cycle and dopamine agonist on hand for PRL issues should they creep up.

PCT and diet dialed in and you're good to go.

**Capebuffalo** · 04-26-2013, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Ok fair enough.

Cycle is fine to me. Make sure you have a solid AI included in cycle and dopamine agonist on hand for PRL issues should they creep up.

PCT and diet dialed in and you're good to go.

Wait .......What?

**Scys** · 04-26-2013, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Ok fair enough.

Cycle is fine to me. Make sure you have a solid AI included in cycle and dopamine agonist on hand for PRL issues should they creep up.

PCT and diet dialed in and you're good to go.

Thankyou!

. Can the Test Prop and Tren Ace be injected at the same time with the same syringe?

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 07:15 PM

Yup, but i assume youre splitting them up right.

Cape has me second guessing myself? Why is that? lol Talk to me brother.

**Scys** · 04-26-2013, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Yup, but i assume youre splitting them up right.

Cape has me second guessing myself? Why is that? lol Talk to me brother.

Splitting them up? you mean injecting every other day? If so then yes (sorry got a little confused :P)

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Scys

Splitting them up? you mean injecting every other day? If so then yes (sorry got a little confused :P)

Ok perfect. The only thing i would recommend, on top of what you have already, is hCG . I would pick some of this up and include it @ 250iu 2/wk on cycle.

Other than that, im still not sure what Cape was referring to.

**Capebuffalo** · 04-26-2013, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Yup, but i assume youre splitting them up right.

Cape has me second guessing myself? Why is that? lol Talk to me brother.

He weighs 150 lbs. this is his second cycle and he wants to use tren .

I think he needs to learn how to eat. Then when he has done that a test only cycle. From his results of the first one he doesn't have a clue how to eat and or train.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 07:28 PM

He's 165lbs @ 10%BF.

**Scys** · 04-26-2013, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

He weighs 150 lbs. this is his second cycle and he wants to use tren .

I think he needs to learn how to eat. Then when he has done that a test only cycle. From his results of the first one he doesn't have a clue how to eat and or train.

Im 165 at 5'6......

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 07:30 PM

But i do agree he cycle too early the first time. And when i asked him if he outgrew his cycle, he said yes, and moved on. I knew he wasn't going to listen to me about the Tren talk. But thankfully his Tren protocol is light bro.

**Scys** · 04-26-2013, 07:35 PM

Yes, I agree I started my 1st cycle too soon so I waited 2 years after my 1st cycle

**Capebuffalo** · 04-26-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

But i do agree he cycle too early the first time. And when i asked him if he outgrew his cycle, he said yes, and moved on. I knew he wasn't going to listen to me about the Tren talk. But thankfully his Tren protocol is light bro.

Understood. Keep it up Mickey. I see now.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Understood. Keep it up Mickey. I see now.

You need clean the screen on that new phone of yours once in awhile..lol

(just teasing you of course)

**Capebuffalo** · 04-26-2013, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

You need clean the screen on that new phone of yours once in awhile..lol

(just teasing you of course)

Forgot to tell you. Your new avi suits you. I think. Good way.

**MickeyKnox** · 04-26-2013, 07:46 PM

But i really only have one tattoo..lol

**Scys** · 04-27-2013, 08:33 PM

Can I take hCG with the same injection as the Test and Tren ? I dont really know much about hCG injections =\. 2 years ago when I did Test E, people on this forum did not recommend hCG as frequent as they do now. Also do you know anything that helps with Acne? I was very prone to Acne when I was on Test

**MickeyKnox** · 04-27-2013, 09:51 PM

You can put it in the same pin for IM injections. But most here use a slin pin and inject it Subq. Read these links to help you understand hCG .

hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

Freezing hCG

hcg frozen

hCG Fragility

HCG Fragility

And you may have needed to adjust your AI to help manage your acne. Acne is often brought on by a rapid fluctuation in hormones.

Relief From Steroid Induced Acne

Relief from steroi-induced acne

**Scys** · 04-27-2013, 10:28 PM

TY for all the help MickeyKnox

. So I've read the hCG thread and it says to inject in the fat and not IM for men?

**gearbox** · 04-27-2013, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Scys

TY for all the help MickeyKnox

. So I've read the hCG thread and it says to inject in the fat and not IM for men?

Subq is fine for hcg . Some prefer im. But I do subq

**Scys** · 04-27-2013, 11:02 PM

^ Thanks, and what do you guys recommend the dosages of AI (Liquidex and/or Letro) during cycle and Nolva/Clomid for PCT for this cycle? (Test Prop 300mg and Tren Ace 225mg per week)

**MickeyKnox** · 04-29-2013, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by Scys

^ Thanks, and what do you guys recommend the dosages of AI (Liquidex and/or Letro) during cycle and Nolva/Clomid for PCT for this cycle? (Test Prop 300mg and Tren Ace 225mg per week)

Thats all contained in here bro..

**Most Common Beginners Cycles**

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?517175-Most-Common-Beginners-Cycles-Look-here..#.UJZv62fX_fs