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    advice needed-first cycle!

    age 24
    hieght:1.78 c"m
    fat %:about 13
    weight:92 k"g
    im about to test enantathe 500 mg a week
    winstrol 50 mg three times a week
    proviron twice daily

    pct:arimidex,tamoxifen
    any suggestions will be welcomed

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    Quote Originally Posted by gantz3000
    age 24
    hieght:1.78 c"m
    fat %:about 13
    weight:92 k"g
    im about to test enantathe 500 mg a week
    winstrol 50 mg three times a week
    proviron twice daily

    pct:arimidex,tamoxifen
    any suggestions will be welcomed
    First cycle is recommended just test e only bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by justo View Post
    First cycle is recommended just test e only bro
    Keep it simple for your first cycle. When you start to get really bad estrogen related sides how will you know what is causing them?

    Arimidex is an AI's not a SERM! And you really should not be messing with tamox on your first cycle because you can tank your estrogen levels easily. I think you need to do allot more research before you hurt yourself.
    Last edited by Iron-56; 04-27-2013 at 11:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron-56

    Keep it simple for your first cycle. When you start to get really bad estrogen related sides how will you know what is causing them?

    Arimidex and tomaxifen are AI's not SERMS! And you really should not be messing with tamox on your first cycle because you can tank your estrogen levels easily. I think you need to do allot more research before you hurt yourself.
    I agree. I was soo close to just doing a cycle until I spoke to the lads on here and they gave me the best advise ever

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    i know that the best thing to do is to keep it simple with test only,but i want to be cut at the ent of the cycle not only with more muscle mass....what should i do about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gantz3000 View Post
    i know that the best thing to do is to keep it simple with test only,but i want to be cut at the ent of the cycle not only with more muscle mass....what should i do about that?
    Adjust your diet to reflect your goals. Body composition begins in the kitchen, not the needle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron-56 View Post
    Keep it simple for your first cycle. When you start to get really bad estrogen related sides how will you know what is causing them?

    Arimidex and tomaxifen are AI's not SERMS! And you really should not be messing with tamox on your first cycle because you can tank your estrogen levels easily. I think you need to do allot more research before you hurt yourself.
    i thought tomaxifen is nolvadex isnt it?

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    Tamoxifen is the trade name for Nolvadex. They are both the same thing and is a SERM, not an AI.

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    I would have to agree with Mickey, best of luck bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Tamoxifen is the trade name for Nolvadex. They are both the same thing and is a SERM, not an AI.
    i thought so..

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    Oh sorry my apologizes! I was thinking of letrozole

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    ^^^read this.

    There is no need for secondary compound in first cycle.

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    Agreed read Mickeys thread it's exactly what you need.

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    thanks for the replies guys....i thinkis i'll go with test e only....few more questions:
    1)is hcg really necasery for the first cycle?
    2)this question is a little bit off but still i really need to know-can i use retalin while on cycle?

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    Personally, I don't think HCG is necessary a first cycle. How else would you know how sensitive your body is to HTPA suppression? Or even if it will undergo?

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    thanks "iron",can someone answer the second question?,thanks/

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    I believe hCG should be use on all cycles for all the reason previously discussed on this Forum. 500mg of exogenous testosterone administered for anything longer than a few wks will shut you down. Period.

    hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

    hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

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