Thoughts on running tes suspension and winny depot....

[Focusmen]

Im currently in week 12 of 16. running 350 a week prop, tren a, masteron at the moment. I have on hand 20 ccs tes suspension and 20ccs winstrol depot. I have never run either one of these compounds but am very intrigued to see what they can do for me. Here's what I thinking ,

Week 12-16

Ed pin
50 tes
50 winny

Cut all pins 3-4 days out? (Before with sust I cut 7 day before show)


Through my research it says suspension is notorious for water weight. "One site said its almost like anadrol " That didn't make sense to me as I figured the faster acting the less water retention... I get very little water with prop but fair amount with cyp. Says you will def need an ai. I'm currently taking .75 letro daily...

Also I haven't tried to load a pin yet , but some people say you can use a smaller gauge needle(27) and other said you will need a larger(21, 20, eww). I'm assuming if differers on the maker....

If you have experiences with either compound please share.

[panntastic]

Steroids do not make you retain water

High Estrogen levels and sodium intake do that.

Suspension should be pinned 2x a day at least for best results

[Lunk1]

nevermind

[panntastic]

nevermind

What's up buddy?

[Lunk1]

What's up buddy?

nadda...been on a nice chill vacation all week. Doing absolutely nothing!

[Focusmen]

Steroids do not make you retain water

High Estrogen levels and sodium intake do that.

Suspension should be pinned 2x a day at least for best results

Well put sir. I agree 100% guess what I mean is I figured suspension would convert to Estrogen the least of all tes . But it seems to be exact opposite.

I'm gonna try to pin Ed and see if that works for me. If not ill drop suspension and keep running the prop eod @100mg. Is the winny ok to pin eod?

[Gaspaco]

Well put sir. I agree 100% guess what I mean is I figured suspension would convert to Estrogen the least of all tes . But it seems to be exact opposite.

I'm gonna try to pin Ed and see if that works for me. If not ill drop suspension and keep running the prop eod @100mg. Is the winny ok to pin eod?

I would do Winny ED.

[Sgt. Hartman]

Well put sir. I agree 100% guess what I mean is I figured suspension would convert to Estrogen the least of all tes . But it seems to be exact opposite.

I'm gonna try to pin Ed and see if that works for me. If not ill drop suspension and keep running the prop eod @100mg. Is the winny ok to pin eod?

I think the reason suspension is thought to cause water retention is that obviously it's not attached to an ester so if high levels of aromatase are present in the body then the aromatization will be immediate. Run an AI and you'll be fine, I take it sometimes for pre WO and never had issue.

As far as what to pin it with is totally dependent on how it was made. I've seen it where it could run through a slin pin w/o issue but also where it got stuck in a 23g. Heating it before pinning will help regardless.

[Times Roman]

with suspension, you better have all your rotation sites handy, as that will be alot of pinning.

not a big fan of winnnie either, as it dries out joints, and causes joint pain. at least for me it does.....

[Focusmen]

I think the reason suspension is thought to cause water retention is that obviously it's not attached to an ester so if high levels of aromatase are present in the body then the aromatization will be immediate. Run an AI and you'll be fine, I take it sometimes for pre WO and never had issue.

As far as what to pin it with is totally dependent on how it was made. I've seen it where it could run through a slin pin w/o issue but also where it got stuck in a 23g. Heating it before pinning will help regardless.

Solid feedback, noted. Thanks

[Focusmen]

with suspension, you better have all your rotation sites handy, as that will be alot of pinning.

not a big fan of winnnie either, as it dries out joints, and causes joint pain. at least for me it does.....

I'm a upper quad, glut, delt guy, hope the six spots is enough. It's only 23 pins. As far as the winny drying you me out, possible , don't usually have joint issues. This is my winny test run!

[Focusmen]

Taking my first pin latest this afternoon(2hrs per workout), I'll keep you posted on my experience


Thanks for replies

[panntastic]

Taking my first pin latest this afternoon(2hrs per workout), I'll keep you posted on my experience

Thanks for replies

Have fun but don't over do it!!!!
I felt like I could of carried on throwing the weights around all day so be careful

[Focusmen]

Shot both gluts mon and tues. lil burning (no worse than tren ace) , zero pip next day. Flows thru 23g like air, prob try the 25 and 27. Def feel it in the gym. Pinned 3 hrs prewrkout. How long does winny take to kick in ? And what am I really looking for with it?

[Windex]

You're going to have to pin Test Suspension more than once a day to get any effect unless you're strictly using it as a preworkout alternative.

[panntastic]

Regardless of what info and advice I have posted before
Please read this
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...explained.html

[Focusmen]

Regardless of what info and advice I have posted before
Please read this
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...explained.html

good read


goes with my basic protocol: try it the way it makes most sense to you, if it works, great! if not try something different!

[Focusmen]

**** guess I jumped the gun. Did my first quad shot. Can barley walk. Other sites are a lil sore and seems like its taking longer to go away than with oils....

[Focusmen]

Everysite hurts like a bitch. Dammit! F suspension! Lol 15 more pins, prob gonna be counting down. Ha

[panntastic]

Maybe next time try tne?

[-Ender-]

Everysite hurts like a bitch. Dammit! F suspension! Lol 15 more pins, prob gonna be counting down. Ha

were you shaking the hell out of the vial to mix the solution before you injected the first few times?

[Focusmen]

Maybe next time try tne?

I can def feel it in the gym and its awesome , but not worth the pain. I can barley get up and down the stairs. For sure want try the tne next time. Lol

[Focusmen]

were you shaking the hell out of the vial to mix the solution before you injected the first few times?

Shaking the shite out of it same as every pin yes

[Focusmen]

So my six sites are all sore. Shoulders aren't to bad but I can still feel them. Never hit anything but delt glute quad.... What do u suggest next? Bis is what I'm thinking but I'm afraid it will get even more sore as its virgin , and completely cripple my workouts( missing cardio today)

Also I was thinking about doing separate pins of susp and winny to really see which one is making me sore. If its winny ill consider taking it orally. If its susp is there any protocol where I could use dbol the last two weeks? Lol long shot but I may not be able to hang. If I wake up every time I move my legs at night and am missing cardio it's almost worth scrapping .

Appreciate the feed back guys

[Focusmen]

Final thoughts . F$@&ck suspension.... Ed pain in the ass, or what ever muscle you pin. Lol the swelling made my tri look pretty sick. Makes me wanna try synthol. Loved showing girls the baseball sized knots on my ass. Haha!

On positive side. The effect were pretty cool. Ed pin and u can feel it instantly. I will try again if I find a new source. ( micronized powder that fits through slin pin I imagine has less pain.)

Winny got me dry

[-Ender-]

^ lol. I don't mean to laugh at you man, but I have been there. I actually started smiling when I first read this thread's title. Suspension is mean shit.