Only 350mg

[DAAS]

So i am only running 350mg of Test E and Seeing awesome results, my diet isn't even perfect.

Not sure why 500mg is recommended for beginners.

Haven't seen really any side effects other than decrease nut size.

Any one else seeing great results with lower than typical dosing? What are you taking?

[DAAS]

I take that back, I had some sleep issues when I first started, but I assume that was from my AI, because I had joint pain and lethargy and those went away once I dropped it. I think .25mg Adex every 3-4 days works for me

[austinite]

Nothing wrong with 500 for beginners. Nothing wrong with 350 either If it works, it works.

[DAAS]

Nothing wrong with 500 for beginners. Nothing wrong with 350 either If it works, it works.

Just curious why a lower dose isnt recommended to start and then advised to slowing increase? Is it possible for some to not noticed 350?

Perhaps because of the common fake gear people taking 500 are really only getting 350?

[austinite]

Just curious why a lower dose isnt recommended to start and then advised to slowing increase? Is it possible for some to not noticed 350?

Perhaps because of the common fake gear people taking 500 are really only getting 350?

I know it's common to recommend 500, but some recommend 400 quite often. I dont think we recommend anything with the assumption it's underdosed. Just a preference. Not everyone responds the same. 350 would be a waste of my time, for example. Others, maybe not.

[Zoey101Fan]

That is impressive that you can get good results from 350mg. People definitely respond differently.

From my experience, I usually recommend 750-1g as a first cycle for an advanced lifter. I am kinda curious as to how experienced you were with lifting before you started the cycle.

Also would love to see a log. I've never really seen anybody run less than 750mg before.

[OnTheSauce]

That is impressive that you can get good results from 350mg. People definitely respond differently.

From my experience, I usually recommend 750-1g as a first cycle for an advanced lifter. I am kinda curious as to how experienced you were with lifting before you started the cycle.

Also would love to see a log. I've never really seen anybody run less than 750mg before.

Please don't give advice then.

[DAAS]

That is impressive that you can get good results from 350mg. People definitely respond differently.

From my experience, I usually recommend 750-1g as a first cycle for an advanced lifter. I am kinda curious as to how experienced you were with lifting before you started the cycle.

Also would love to see a log. I've never really seen anybody run less than 750mg before.

Well I've lifted for a few(5ish)years but naturally have lower test levels 420~ SO that's probably why I am experiencing such good results. Plus I made the stuff myself so I know its good.

"its made with bits of real panther...so you know its good"

[DAAS]

Please don't give advice then.

2nd. 1G seems a bit extreme. considering naturally a person makes about 6mg a day if I am not mistaken.

[Zoey101Fan]

2nd. 1G seems a bit extreme. considering naturally a person makes about 6mg a day if I am not mistaken.

1g isn't very excessive if you want to see big results. Most of my friends do more like 3-4g's of injects and 100-200mg's of orals. But they're not the smartest guys on the block, in my opinion.

I believe 150mg/wk should put you towards the higher end of natty

Also, i'll give a little bit of advice and take some too, if you don't mind patrick.

[dumpslugzz]

yea when i did test prop i only did 100mg/ml witch worked out to 400 a week and i had great results. im not sure but i would do a lower dose of test if i wanted to use a winny or anavr only cycle... with that being said once you get on the test you will want to up the dose

[OnTheSauce]

1g isn't very excessive if you want to see big results. Most of my friends do more like 3-4g's of injects and 100-200mg's of orals. But they're not the smartest guys on the block, in my opinion.

I believe 150mg/wk should put you towards the higher end of natty

Also, i'll give a little bit of advice and take some too, if you don't mind patrick.

You may need those doses later on. No chance for first run. If you've been on natty levels, taking 500 or 1000 wont make much difference on gains. Only you're hurting your gains later and instead of being able to grow on 1000 for your fifth run, you'll need 1500 or more. First runs need to be test only. Even second or third. Then add another compound or up the dose a little.

[Zoey101Fan]

You may need those doses later on. No chance for first run. If you've been on natty levels, taking 500 or 1000 wont make much difference on gains. Only you're hurting your gains later and instead of being able to grow on 1000 for your fifth run, you'll need 1500 or more. First runs need to be test only. Even second or third. Then add another compound or up the dose a little.

I actually don't agree with the fact that running a higher dose for your first cycle will hurt your gains later on. Not sure about it though. This sounds like something that would be hard to prove one way or the other.

[slfmade]

I believe Flier is currently running like 85mg EOD of Prop and VERY happy with the results vs the higher dosing.

As far as the new guy posting crap about newbies starting with a gram....I've heard that "60% of the time it works everytime."

[OnTheSauce]

I actually don't agree with the fact that running a higher dose for your first cycle will hurt your gains later on. Not sure about it though. This sounds like something that would be hard to prove one way or the other.

Not really. Why do you think your first cycle is always the best? Your body gets used to what you are using and doing. what's your cycle experience?