First cycle of test cyp, week 5 and no results, please advise...

**liquidmunkie** · 05-05-2013, 01:03 AM

Hey guys long time lurker, first time poster, but I need some advice...

I'm pinning 250mg of test cyp every Wednesday and Saturday night before bed to get 500mg/week. Tonight's pin made the 9th one and I'm moving into week 5, but I've had no results...

Let's see if I can cover all the bases:

- It's my first cycle, so only taking test cyp, nothing else
- Source was recommended by friends, they had good results, can give brand if needed...?
- I have Clomid on hand for PCT
- I also have 20 Arimidex -1mg tabs on hand for sides (but no sides experienced yet)
- Only had any PIP after one pin in week 3, just a lil soreness, but I think I rushed the plunger
- I'm 30/yrs old, 5'11", 200lbs and working out 4 days/week, minimum cardio, all power lifting
- Diet is buckled down with 3000-3500 calories/day and 175-200g protein/day
- Strength at the gym seems like its up, mayyybe just a little, or maybe just in my head...
- Bloodwork really isn't an option due to lack of health insurance

I've also haven't really had a high libido in the past few years and was looking forward the resurgence in sex drive that I thought this cycle would bring, but so far I haven't experienced it, I mean I wake up with an erection most mornings like I have for years, but throughout the day nothing... I feel like I maybe "think about" sex more often, but it still takes direct physical stimulation of my penis from my woman for a minute to get it erect, but this has also been the case for our sex life the past few years, so in the end no real change there.

Also lastly, 3 or 4 days after my very first pin I could have swore I felt something for a day or two, I caught myself looking at women on the street and at the gym, felt like a beast working out at the gym, and even thought I had a greasy face those two days lol... But then again I had read all about these effects numerous times and I know test cyp takes a few weeks so maybe that was just all in my head...?

So anywho, yesterday marked a month and tonights pin started week 5, but I'm starting to get discouraged =/
Should I just chill out and keep on pinning?
Change my dosage?
Change pin times or days?
Should I start taking the Arimidex? If so how much and how often?
Any other suggestions?

Please advise...
And thanks in advance for taking the time to reply!

**austinite** · 05-05-2013, 01:12 AM

What's your BF %?

- Yes, you can list the brand, not the source.
- You need clomid & nolva for PCT, not just clomid.
- You should be using Arimidex , not keeping it "on hand".
- Too early to get discouraged. Give it another couple weeks.
- Everyone is different. Cyp doesn't do anything for me until beginning of week 8.
- Yes, Chill out.
- Do not change dose.
- Change your strange injection days. Do Monday morning and Thursday night. That's a 3.5 day spread.
- Get hCG and start using it ASAP at 250iu twice weekly.

Doesn't look like you've done much research, but I wish you the best either way. Good luck.

**liquidmunkie** · 05-05-2013, 01:47 AM

Thanks for the quick reply Austinite, and I knew someone would inquire as to my bodyfat percentage, but as to that I'm really not sure...
I'm 5'11" 200lbs, I wear a size 32 or 34 jeans, arms ass and legs are very lean and defined, I get complimented on arms and chest by women all the time, but my stomach isn't cut and I've always carried a little pudge there no matter what I do of maybe 10lbs of fat at the most... Don't know if any of that helps but trying to offer the most info

- Brand is Geneza Pharm
- I can order some nolva up tomorrow, but I "thought" I just needed the clomid with all the articles and posts I've read...
- How much Arimidex and how often would you recommend?
- Week 8? Wow! I only ordered enough Test Cyp for 10 weeks... And if it takes that long to kick in does it continue that long after the last pin???
- Oh I meant pinning Wed (not Thur) and Sat night, I edited my post, but should I still change those days? I workout mon-thur if that helps...
- hCG ? I can get it along with the nolva, but my source takes 3-4 weeks, is it that much of a benefit?

**austinite** · 05-05-2013, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by liquidmunkie

Thanks for the quick reply Austinite, and I knew someone would inquire as to my bodyfat percentage, but as to that I'm really not sure...
I'm 5'11" 200lbs, I wear a size 32 or 34 jeans, arms ass and legs are very lean and defined, I get complimented on arms and chest by women all the time, but my stomach isn't cut and I've always carried a little pudge there no matter what I do of maybe 10lbs of fat at the most... Don't know if any of that helps but trying to offer the most info

- Brand is Geneza Pharm
- I can order some nolva up tomorrow, but I "thought" I just needed to clomid with all the articles and posts I've read...
- How much Arimidex and how often would you recommend?
- Week 8? Wow! I only ordered enough Test Cyp for 10 weeks... And if it takes that long to kick in does it continue that long after the last pin???
- Oh I meant pinning Wed (not Thur) and Sat night, I edited my post, but should I still change those days? I workout mon-thur if that helps...
- hCG? I can get it along with the nolva, but my source takes 3-4 weeks, is it that much of a benefit?

- Since you have 1ml tabs, 0.5 Every 3rd day.
- 10 weeks is fine. My body is different, most will see results late week 5 or beginning of week 6.
- Better to pin every 3.5 days, so switch Wednesday to morning instead of night.
- hCG will prevent testicular atrophy and help speed up recovery. Keeps your natural production working. I never cycle without it. So yes, not just "much" benefit, massive benefit.

**liquidmunkie** · 05-05-2013, 02:09 AM

Gotcha! So I'm starting my Arimidex tomorrow and doing a little shopping for nolva and hCG lol

A few last questions:
Do you know if Geneza is a legit brand?
If I take say 6 weeks to start feeling the Cyp kick in, does that mean it will it continue 6 weeks after the last pin?
And when would you recommend I start my PCT?

**cantstopkane** · 05-05-2013, 02:16 AM

If its real geneza is a good brand

**kronik420** · 05-05-2013, 02:17 AM

run your cyp for 12 weeks..

PCT starts 18 days after last pin

**DapperSapper** · 06-24-2013, 05:15 PM

Did you end up seeing dem gainz??

**liquidmunkie** · 06-26-2013, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by DapperSapper

Did you end up seeing dem gainz??

Yesss!!!

Right after I started my second vial, on about week 5 or 6, my strength shot way up at what seemed overnight lol , I pinned my last dose last week, have put on about 20lbs of weight, and increased my bench 50lbs from the start of my cycle!

Now my only question is: I'm ready to start my PCT next week, but when do I stop my .5mg adex I'm taking every 3 days? Stop it when I start PCT or when I finish PCT?

**austinite** · 06-26-2013, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by liquidmunkie

Yesss!!!

Right after I started my second vial, on about week 5 or 6, my strength shot way up at what seemed overnight lol , I pinned my last dose last week, have put on about 20lbs of weight, and increased my bench 50lbs from the start of my cycle!

Now my only question is: I'm ready to start my PCT next week, but when do I stop my .5mg adex I'm taking every 3 days? Stop it when I start PCT or when I finish PCT?

Stop adex the day before PCT.

**Java Man** · 06-26-2013, 10:16 PM

Consider using hcg throughout each cycle in the future, starting the day you first pin. . I used to cycle all the time without pct and no hcg. Now that I'm older and these things are easier to get and freely talked about, I will never cycle again without hcg. Keeps your natural HPTA going so you don't shut down. Stop hcg 2-3 days before staring pct. Clomid and nolvadex will pick up your HPTA from there.

I know it's already been mentioned, just wanted to expand on that a bit. Glad you started seeing results.

**DapperSapper** · 06-27-2013, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by liquidmunkie

Yesss!!!

Right after I started my second vial, on about week 5 or 6, my strength shot way up at what seemed overnight lol , I pinned my last dose last week, have put on about 20lbs of weight, and increased my bench 50lbs from the start of my cycle!

Now my only question is: I'm ready to start my PCT next week, but when do I stop my .5mg adex I'm taking every 3 days? Stop it when I start PCT or when I finish PCT?

Very nice. Let us know much much you keep after PCT and how you feel during PCT.

I am about 3.5 weeks in on test only, looking forward to the results in a week or two.