npp and test cyp log with questions

**swole86** · 05-10-2013, 08:15 PM

Hello all,
A brief summary of myself: I have competed in powerlifting for 8 years and for the past 3 years have made a slow transition to body building competing in my first show last year. I did place first in middleweights open and novice and won the overall novice. I am now preping for a national qualifer and I am two weeks into my cycle and am questioning the effects.

Stats:
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 207
Body fat: 9%

Cycle History:

Well let me get this shameful part out of the way. When I was 20-22 I ran some prohormone cycles and two test cycles one with a kickstart of dbol . Three years went by not talking anything, but I felt like crap. Blood work had my test levels at 250 ng/dl. So, needless to say I a have been on TRT for the past year and progress is moving along again. So, I will list my most recent cycles since I have started TRT:

Normal TRT protocal:
200mg Test cyp e5d
250IU HCG e5d
1 mg arimidex e5d

cycle 1

wk1-6 test prop 600mg/wk
wk1-4 20 mg superdrol/day (don't tell me, I am so done with prohormones)
HCG and arimidex same TRT dose

gained 14 lbs after returning to my TRT dose for 8 wks, side note do not take superdrol it will beat your liver to death. I was off superdrol for 2 wks. ALT levels were 250 U/L, took another 4 wks to get them to 55 U/L. This is even with taking LiverCare and NAC.

cycle 2 (currently 10 days in)
wk 1-8 Dragon Pharm test cyp 500mg/wk
wk 1-6 Kalpa NPP 300 mg/wk
HCG and arimidex same TRT dose
caber on hand

My goal is to still bulk for the remainder of this cycle, Take an 8 wk break then hit my cycle for the show. My only concern is I do not feel like I am "on". I went into the cycle with 4500 cals on my training days maintaining my weight. I thought once I am a week in a will bump the calories and push the weight gain. But my strength has not increased, no pumps, I even feel achy. It almost makes my feel like my gear is underdosed, i am not taking enough, or I am just responding poorly. So, this is my question...Have I been on long enough to where I should notice something from my current cycle? I get that the test will take a little longer to be full swing, but there should be a gradual effect occuring of some sort. Any advice and feedback would be appreciated. I am glad to finally be part of this board and hope to learn a lot from everyone.

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 08:25 PM

Welcome,

How often are you injecting ? 10 days in is nothing....

**swole86** · 05-10-2013, 08:37 PM

Well, thats what I was thinking and hoping as well, but with the npp short 1/2 life I thought some effect may be seen.

Anyway.. test cyp is twice a wk and npp is eod

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 08:50 PM

Ok. Well just give it time. It will start to show sooner than later. It's not magic.

**gymfu** · 05-10-2013, 09:10 PM

That's a fairly low dose on NPP. Looks like this is your first go with nandrolone so I'm not suggesting you take more, but you might need more.

Austinite gave you the best advice, wait a little longer.

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by gymfu

That's a fairly low dose on NPP. Looks like this is your first go with nandrolone so I'm not suggesting you take more, but you might need more.

Austinite gave you the best advice, wait a little longer.

Agree, it certainly is a low dose.

**swole86** · 05-10-2013, 09:31 PM

You are correct this is my first time with nandrolone . I will continue and see what happens at this dose, but would ya'll recommend bumping the dose now or wait? If so, what should I increase it to? I did consider my previous cycle was 740 mg of gear per week and this is 800 mg... So possibly not a large enough increase. But being that they are different compounds it is not fair to compare mgs like that.

**gymfu** · 05-11-2013, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by swole86

You are correct this is my first time with nandrolone. I will continue and see what happens at this dose, but would ya'll recommend bumping the dose now or wait? If so, what should I increase it to? I did consider my previous cycle was 740 mg of gear per week and this is 800 mg... So possibly not a large enough increase. But being that they are different compounds it is not fair to compare mgs like that.

Your playing is smart and conservative. I would recommend you just run the cycle as is. With proper diet you have plenty of gear to give you results. I can not speak for the labs your using though, never heard of them.