First cycle of deca/test

**steve724** · 05-11-2013, 02:59 PM

First cycle with deca /test, not sure what pct i will be picking up yet due to I hear SO MANY different variations still doing a lot of research. Since this is my first cycle, i'm going to most likely start with 100mg deca and 200mg of test and eventually after like the 4th or 5th week double it too 200mg of deca and 400mg of test. Im doubling because from what I found this is the best way to avoid "deca d1ck"? If you guys have any advice on mg and what is the best pct to take that would be very well appreciated. Im not starting till im 100% on everything. My calorie intake is about 4k a day with 300g of protein, im a hard gainer and weigh a little over 180lb. Thanks guys.

**MartyMcFly** · 05-11-2013, 03:01 PM

You are 19. Wait.

**scorpion62** · 05-11-2013, 04:24 PM

First off you should post your stats , your only 81kg I would say that you should post your diet in the nutrition section , if your 19 your natural test and a good diet is all you need to grow not steriods

**AlinSR** · 05-11-2013, 06:16 PM

When I was 19, I was impatient also.

**BlueWaffle21** · 05-12-2013, 08:48 AM

Sounds like a terrible plan all around!!

**songdog** · 05-12-2013, 09:05 AM

I agree at 19 you will not like wat it will do to your endo system.ED isnt a good thing.

**kelkel** · 05-12-2013, 09:24 AM

Don't risk damaging you HPTA all for a few pounds you'll more than likely lose. Hit the nutrition forum, read the bulking stickies. Give it a few more years before you take this leap.

**steve724** · 05-12-2013, 09:50 AM

thanks for the input guys, but ive had a bunch of friends who've cycled and ended up fine.. even if i take a good pct and an organ shield it would still mess me up?

**krugerr** · 05-12-2013, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by steve724

thanks for the input guys, but ive had a bunch of friends who've cycled and ended up fine.. even if i take a good pct and an organ shield it would still mess me up?

How do you know they're fine? Just curious? Have you seen their bloodwork? I doubt they're likely to tell you if they're suffering from problems.

Listen to the sound advice you've been given.

**kelkel** · 05-12-2013, 01:33 PM

Too young Steve. Just say no. Learn how to maximize nutrition and training first and give it time, you'll get there.

And keep an eye on your friends, bet they shrink right back down as soon as they're off. In the meantime, you can do it right and keep progressing. When your time comes you'll blow right by them.

**MajorPectorial** · 05-12-2013, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by krugerr

How do you know they're fine? Just curious? Have you seen their bloodwork? I doubt they're likely to tell you if they're suffering from problems.

Listen to the sound advice you've been given.

2Nd that

**steve724** · 05-12-2013, 04:34 PM

thanks a lot guys, very informative advice! it's not like I don't have gains.. I just wanna go from "pretty ripped" to big. Being 6ft and 180lb isnt necessarily ideal for me right now, would taking just test have the same negative side effects as lets say any other gear. Maybe this sounds stupid sorry but I wanna gain weight fast

**3day** · 05-12-2013, 08:14 PM

Yes it will. Listen to the above advice. If you learn to eat and train properly you do not need anything else at your age. I would give my left nut for what your natural test probably is at the moment (literally).

**kelkel** · 05-12-2013, 08:17 PM

Steve take some time and read ALL of this please:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...%2A%2A%2A.html

**steve724** · 05-12-2013, 08:47 PM

honestly before i signed up to be apart of this forum i was 100% on taking gear...however all of your guys advice has helped me a lot and im def gonna wait (you guys scared the shitttt out of me haha) just gotta eat more tuna i guess lol

thank you

**kelkel** · 05-12-2013, 09:00 PM

Steve most guys "think" they eat enough and "think" they train hard enough but they don't. It's really hard to do. Adding AAS would be money down the toilet until you learn to do this and come close to maximizing your natural potential first.

You're young. Your metabolism is probably very fast so you need to eat, a lot! Training has to be on point as well. Remember to visit the nutrition forum and also hit the lounge and read "Marcus's Diary" for some great modern training ideas that will speed up your progress. Ask questions there as well.

Thanks for listening. This is an AAS forum but we consider it a responsible AAS forum as well. The guys won't steer you wrong. We'll be here in a few years when you are fully prepared.