First Cycle in a while, critique

**RaginCajun** · 05-13-2013, 09:03 AM

Haven't cycled since 2009 and i figure it is time to jump on one!

5'10 168lbs 17% BF 31yr old

Cycle:

Weeks 1-10 Sus 250mg twice a week (Mon/thurs) and HCG 250iu
ADEX - 0.25 EOD
Weeks 4-10 Anavar @ 75mgs everyday

PCT

Clomid - 75mg everyday for a 1 week/ 25mg for weeks 2-4
Nolva - 40mg everyday for 1 week/ 20mg for weeks 2-4

How does that look fellas? Am i missing anything? Should i be taking pregnenolone and dhea along with this?

**Gaspaco** · 05-13-2013, 09:05 AM

Aren't you little light for your height?

**ChiveOn** · 05-13-2013, 09:07 AM

The HCG is 250iu 2x a week?
Honestly you seem a bit small for 5'10 17%bf but I'm sure you've got diet and everything under control.
I did sust my first cycle and I pinned e3d to try to take advantage of the shorter esters, but to each his own. I wouldn't use a blend again

**RaginCajun** · 05-13-2013, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

Aren't you little light for your height?

yeah, i could be over estimating BF some but yes, 170lbs. down from 196lbs when i started this website

Originally Posted by ChiveOn

The HCG is 250iu 2x a week?
Honestly you seem a bit small for 5'10 17%bf but I'm sure you've got diet and everything under control.
I did sust my first cycle and I pinned e3d to try to take advantage of the shorter esters, but to each his own. I wouldn't use a blend again

yes, 250iu twice a week.

working on putting on a little size!

**Gaspaco** · 05-13-2013, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

yeah, i could be over estimating BF some but yes, 170lbs. down from 196lbs when i started this website

yes, 250iu twice a week.

working on putting on a little size!

Good luck with gaining buddy!

I would do 12 weeks of sust and last 6 of var, counting clearing ones too.

1-12 sust
10-15 var and jump on PCT right after.

**largerthannormal** · 05-13-2013, 09:42 AM

What is the objective of the cycle? bulk/cut/recomp?

since you in the middle of the spot that most do not like to be in cause your light and bf is slightly high it makes a tough decision to bulk or cut, Of course cut is the obvious answer to me. ( i have been there as well)

what is going to be your calorie intake based of your decision?

**Lunk1** · 05-13-2013, 09:44 AM

Are you eating above or below TDEE during this cycle?

**RaginCajun** · 05-13-2013, 10:16 AM

objective will be a recomp

eating at 2100 cals (maintenance)

**marcus300** · 05-13-2013, 10:21 AM

Cycle looks fine the only think I would adjust is the var, which I would run right up to pct start time. I would also question your weight because from the looks of things your eating like a mouse and you really need to get this in check before starting the cycle. Try and up your cals and put some weight on before the cycle and STOP eating like a mouse

**RaginCajun** · 05-13-2013, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Cycle looks fine the only think I would adjust is the var, which I would run right up to pct start time. I would also question your weight because from the looks of things your eating like a mouse and you really need to get this in check before starting the cycle. Try and up your cals and put some weight on before the cycle and STOP eating like a mouse

yeah, i was thinking about waiting until week 6 with the Var and plan on it ending right into PCT

i just have to watch with the eating, i can gain weight like a mad man, especially FAT!

**marcus300** · 05-13-2013, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

yeah, i was thinking about waiting until week 6 with the Var and plan on it ending right into PCT

i just have to watch with the eating, i can gain weight like a mad man, especially FAT!

Your eating the wrong things and you need to make sure you have a solid cardio routine, also try carb cycling even for gaining this will help with less fat gain.

**RaginCajun** · 05-13-2013, 10:38 AM

here is my training schedule:

Monday: AM- Swim (intervals - sprints)

Tuesday: AM- Bike (i will be using an indoor trainer starting next week) PM- Run (Hill Sprints - then low intensity run/walk)

Wednesday: AM- X-train (Heavy weights - 2 warm up sets, 1 working set to failure)

Thursday: AM - Swim (just laps, long swim)

Friday: AM- X-train (Kettlebell/focused on core/lower back) this is one workout i like to switch it up and do a HIIT style workout

Saturday: Long Bike

Sunday: Long Run

**cj111** · 05-13-2013, 11:52 AM

So you mostly do cardio stuff and not the usual bodybuilding stuff in the gym ? If you're that active, like marcus mentioned you should be eating more.

**RaginCajun** · 05-13-2013, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by cj111

So you mostly do cardio stuff and not the usual bodybuilding stuff in the gym ? If you're that active, like marcus mentioned you should be eating more.

yeah, training for a triathlon so that is why you see all the cardio

i still lift twice a week but maybe thinking about adding in another lift day

diet is not my strong suit and i have been working on it. i love to eat!

**Buster Brown** · 05-13-2013, 12:06 PM

Check out the stickies that discuss carb cycling. This might be right up your alley.

**Lunk1** · 05-13-2013, 01:49 PM

If cardio is making up the main portion of your routine and you are at a deficit then just run a simple test only cycle to help save some muscle

**RaginCajun** · 05-13-2013, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

Check out the stickies that discuss carb cycling. This might be right up your alley.

i have been pondering it and pretty much have it laid out

Originally Posted by Lunk1

If cardio is making up the main portion of your routine and you are at a deficit then just run a simple test only cycle to help save some muscle

yeah, my training is cardio heavy but that could change if the pumps get unbearable. i remember last time i was on cycle it sucked trying to run distance!

**RaginCajun** · 05-14-2013, 09:12 AM

thinking about dropping the Var and just running the Sus.

i will be commencing next week as i will be heading to Nola for a wedding thursday

**Lunk1** · 05-14-2013, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

thinking about dropping the Var and just running the Sus.

i will be commencing next week as i will be heading to Nola for a wedding thursday

I would for now considering your goal and routine. Hell a 300-400mg EW of test cycle is plenty to accomplish what your setting out to do. Save muscle during a calorie deficient diet and maybe even gain a small amount of muscle tissue in the mean time. Good Luck

**RaginCajun** · 05-14-2013, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I would for now considering your goal and routine. Hell a 300-400mg EW of test cycle is plenty to accomplish what your setting out to do. Save muscle during a calorie deficient diet and maybe even gain a small amount of muscle tissue in the mean time. Good Luck

thanks clunk!

and i am a horny fukker already, with 500mg of test running thru me, betches will be able to smell it pouring out of me!