Cycle Critique

**thekraken** · 05-13-2013, 09:52 AM

I'm coming off my first stacked cycle of sust and EQ, looking to plan out my next cycle for the fall. Been lifting for 9 years and just finally hit the sauce a few months ago. I'm 6' 230lbs at the end of this cycle.

I want to hit it quick and hard for 12 weeks so I can run a cutting stack in the spring without overlapping too much.

Here's my thinking:

Week 1-3: 100mg anadrol ED
Week 2-11: 600mg NPP, 750mg Test E
Week 2-11: 12.5mg aromasin EOD
Week 6-11: 100mg Tren A EOD
Week 2-12: 500iu HCG
Week 7-12: 80mg Anavar ED

PCT with Clomid, Nolva, and Clen

I originally wanted to run Deca over EQ because I have joint discomfort, but I picked NPP over Deca for the lack of bloating and fast action. Particularly interested in thoughts on this. With EQ I stopped two weeks before PCT. I have this planned as stopping one week before. Should it be more or less?

**austinite** · 05-13-2013, 09:54 AM

Welcome,

Seems pretty aggressive for a second stacked-cycle. What is your body fat percentage? Need to know before we move forward. Please update your profile with all your stats so we don't have to keep asking in future threads.

**Turkish Juicer** · 05-13-2013, 10:41 AM

Your cycle layout is ridiculously aggressive for a 2nd cycle.

Too many compounds, too much of total AAS weekly and 100mg Tren EOD, really?

**Turkish Juicer** · 05-13-2013, 10:42 AM

What is your goal dude? Are you planning to turn into Jay Cutler by the end of 12 weeks?

I would drop everything and go with NPP and Test E only.

**Gaspaco** · 05-13-2013, 10:45 AM

Listen to guys buddy!!^^^

grow to your MF compounds and dosages!

**thekraken** · 05-13-2013, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

I would drop everything and go with NPP and Test E only.

I'm not trolling and I know I'm new... But why? What's the reasoning?

**thekraken** · 05-13-2013, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Welcome,

Seems pretty aggressive for a second stacked-cycle. What is your body fat percentage? Need to know before we move forward. Please update your profile with all your stats so we don't have to keep asking in future threads.

I can't seem to update it now. Maybe it's my phone. I will try when I get home from work.

Right now I'm sitting at 14% bf.

My first stack was aggressive too.
Weeks 1-3: 900mg EQ
Weeks 3-6: 80mg dbol ED
Weeks 3-8: 600mg EQ, 500mg Sust
Weeks 9-17: 900mg EQ, 750mg Sust
Weeks 5-18: 500iu HCG
Weeks 13-18: 80mg Anavar ED
Week 15: start 40mcg igf ED
Week 18: 500mg Sust
Week 19: off
PCT

**Turkish Juicer** · 05-14-2013, 12:48 AM

^^^ Whoa!

What happened at the end of this cycle, then? How much weight did you gain in total and how much of it was LBM that you were able to maintain after your cycle? Did you get blood work done after your first cycle? What did you do to manage estrogen and its sides and what did your PCT consist of?

... and more importantly, who gave you the advice to run 4 different AAS which two of them are oral in the first place?

**austinite** · 05-14-2013, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

^^^ Whoa!

What happened at the end of this cycle, then? How much weight did you gain in total and how much of it was LBM that you were able to maintain after your cycle? Did you get blood work done after your first cycle? What did you do to manage estrogen and its sides and what did your PCT consist of?

... and more importantly, who gave you the advice to run 4 different AAS which two of them are oral in the first place?

On a side note.... Damn you're shredded to pieces.

**thekraken** · 05-14-2013, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

^^^ Whoa!

What happened at the end of this cycle, then? How much weight did you gain in total and how much of it was LBM that you were able to maintain after your cycle? Did you get blood work done after your first cycle? What did you do to manage estrogen and its sides and what did your PCT consist of?

... and more importantly, who gave you the advice to run 4 different AAS which two of them are oral in the first place?

I started the stack at 220 and 18%BF, got to almost 240 during the dbol phase, and then dropped to 235 and then to 230 after an illness, and back up to 235 before hitting the var. I'm on my off week and a much cleaner diet and weighed in at 227 this morning. Where the change is noticeable is my shoulder width and quad sweep, and my strength.

PCT wll be clomid and nolva along with clen and keto.

What's wrong with running two orals in a stack? I don't mean to be a dick, but I'm 27yrs old and have a bachelor's in chemistry, so I can understand scientific explanations. Rhetorical questions and non-constructive criticism aren't taking this anywhere.