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    First Cycle help.

    Hey guys, So basically I am 20 years old and have had chronic knee injuries playing college basketball in a Junior college for the past 2 years. I have one more year of eligibility at JC and need to get the most out of it. I am trying to get a D1 offer to play basketball (actually have a few) but coming off this last knee surgery I have lost a lot of weight. I am 6 foot 6 and 220 lbs. BF at 8%. I was 230 before surgery. Anyway, I know that people will tell me to eat more, and just workout. And honestly I have been doing that for the past 3 years. But with 5 knee surgeries, I have not had great results. Anyway, my knee is healthy now, but I have exactly 1 year to get in top physical shape. AND GUYS I know I ideally should not use gear YET, but please understand that this is my last shot. I am FINALLY healthy and FINALLY back gaining weight. I need this opportunity to pay for school, because without basketball I will not be able to pay. Anyway, I am looking for my first cycle. I am thinking about running a test, var, cycle, but would love to hear your advice. I have a workout routine and a meal plan, and am an advanced weight trainer. But have had unfortunate luck with injuries and whatnot. I would love you guys to give advice on what gear I should use, and what PCT i should use. If you are here to say that I SHOULDNT use gear, then I agree with you. I fkd up and now am running out of time. But to those willing to help me. THANKS in advance

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    Running steroids before you have fully developed your HPTA can have huge consequences, personally the risk are not worth the rewards and at your age. The answer is your diet to achieving your goal in all honesty and not something what would shut down your natural test before its fully developed.

    There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

    I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

    I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
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    I agree with the above.

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    thanks. I understand and agree. but honestly this is the difference between going to no college, or a really good University. I would like to have some advice that can help me

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    Quote Originally Posted by questionair View Post
    thanks. I understand and agree. but honestly this is the difference between going to no college, or a really good University. I would like to have some advice that can help me
    Marcus really has given u some sound advice. Honestly.but i do understand that by not getting this it could effect the rest of ur life too. Not a great place to be.

    Personally i would read 'the young and steroids ' and cycles for newbies. Thats before u even consider actually going for it. Problem is. When ur younger u dont quite realize how much it can or might effect you later in life. Were not talking just one problem. But a dominoe effect of a multitude of problems you know?, seriously. For ur own good. Really look deep inti it. Research. Understand the implications and if u still are gunna go for it irregardless im sure someone would rather give some advice than let u blindly stumble around or listen tho the guys who wanna sell you stuff u dont need. Wherever that may be. If i were you i wouldnt go for it yet. But. Im not you. N my future life dont at least in probability. Depend on it.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by questionair View Post
    thanks. I understand and agree. but honestly this is the difference between going to no college, or a really good University. I would like to have some advice that can help me
    Well bro if you didnt understand wat Marcus said.I wouldnt worry about collage beacuse you wouldnt make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Well bro if you didnt understand wat Marcus said.I wouldnt worry about collage beacuse you wouldnt make it.
    Bro, you spelled COLLEGE wrong. Do not try and lecture me on my intelligence. You, by no means, should be talking.

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