my cycle is a disaster PLZ help

**fox76** · 05-14-2013, 02:03 AM

Hi, TNX for stop here

I begging my cycle on MARCH 2013 following the directions of a "Friend" that suppose to know about this. By googling I just found that my cycle could have some problems and Im very worried. The more I read the more "information" or disinformation I found so I decide to ask you guys for advice.Today I shoot test E with Primo for the first time (together). I have no problems with my chest (gyno).

Please tell me if is the right amount of every steroid and if the PCT is ok. or I should change something now? I didn't see any increase in my weight but it seems Im loosing BF. I feel good. my nuts in place didn't shrink.

Thank you very much for your help. I know this is a completed disaster. What I should do? How can I fix it?

Age: 36
Weight: 85KG
BF: 20%
1,76 MTS
Trainee 5 times per week
First cycle

March
week 1: 250mg
week 2: 500mg deca
week 3: 500mg primo
week 4: business trip
week 5: business trip

April
week 1: business trip
week 2: 300mg primo / 1000mg deca
week 3: 300mg primo / 1000mg deca
week 4 (April week 4 + May week 1): 500mg primo

May
week 1:500mg primo
week 2:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E
week 3:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E
week 4 (May week 4+June week 1):500mg primo / 250mg Testo E

June
week 1:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E
week 2:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E
week 3:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E
week 4:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E

PCT
Week 1: 500iu/ED hCG
Week 2: 500iu/ED (1st 3 Days) /Nolvadex 40mg/ED
Week 2: Novadex 40mg/ED
Week 2: Novadex 20mg/ED
Week 2: Novadex 20mg/ED

**marcus300** · 05-14-2013, 02:06 AM

Stop taking everything and learn exactly what your taking and doing, the cycle is a disaster for a first cycle and the only thing you can do at this point is stop and get ready for your pct

**fox76** · 05-14-2013, 02:10 AM

TNX marcus, there is anyway that I can fix this? MAY: this week - week 2:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E

Or you think I should stop today and begging with PCT today? my PCT looks ok?

**The Titan99** · 05-14-2013, 02:12 AM

Stop everything. There are so many problems with this I don't know where to begin. If I'm reading this right your using 3 different steroids rotating them by week and stopping periodically to go on business trips? Doing this for 4 months? There is literally not 1 thing that makes sense here. Scrap the whole thing and read ALL the stickies at the beginning of this section. You don't have any problems with your chest....JEEZUS!!!!

**marcus300** · 05-14-2013, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by fox76

TNX marcus, there is anyway that I can fix this? MAY: this week - week 2:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E

Or you think I should stop today and begging with PCT today? my PCT looks ok?

Don't run the cycle, how many injections have you took so far?

**fox76** · 05-14-2013, 02:15 AM

TNX guys. I know that all wrong I was following the directions of a friend but later I found he don't know anything so I came here. I feel lost now

Until now I took all this

March
week 1: 250mg
week 2: 500mg deca
week 3: 500mg primo
week 4: business trip
week 5: business trip

April
week 1: business trip
week 2: 300mg primo / 1000mg deca
week 3: 300mg primo / 1000mg deca
week 4 (April week 4 + May week 1): 500mg primo

May
week 1:500mg primo
week 2:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E

**marcus300** · 05-14-2013, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by fox76

TNX guys. I know that all wrong I was following the directions of a friend but later I found he don't know anything so I came here. I feel lost now

Until now I took all this

March
week 1: 250mg
week 2: 500mg deca
week 3: 500mg primo
week 4: business trip
week 5: business trip

April
week 1: business trip
week 2: 300mg primo / 1000mg deca
week 3: 300mg primo / 1000mg deca
week 4 (April week 4 + May week 1): 500mg primo

May
week 1:500mg primo
week 2:500mg primo / 250mg Testo E

You need to stop what your taking and get some nolva and clomid

best place to get this from is ar-r in the top righthand corner

wait two week before pct and while your waiting take hcg 500ius 2 x weekly for 2 weeks then start your pct

then run
nolva 40/40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/25

**fox76** · 05-14-2013, 02:27 AM

Please confirm this
My last shoot was yesterday. Today I should use hcg 500ius and before the end of the week hcg 500ius. I should do this for 2 weeks ; after this :

Week 1: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 100
Week 2: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 50
Week 3: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 50
Week 4: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 25
Week 5: Novadex 20mg/ED

Can I skip the clomid ??

**marcus300** · 05-14-2013, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by fox76

Please confirm this
My last shoot was yesterday. Today I should use hcg 500ius and before the end of the week hcg 500ius and this 2 weeks after this

Week 1: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 100
Week 2: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 50
Week 3: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 50
Week 4: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 25
Week 5: Novadex 20mg/ED

Can I skip the clomid ??

Yes that's right and no you cant skip the clomid, best of luck

**fox76** · 05-14-2013, 02:32 AM

Thank you!!

**fox76** · 05-14-2013, 02:44 AM

one last question, the clomid is 100 / 50 / 50 / 25 ED ??
Week 1: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 100
Week 2: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 50
Week 3: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 50
Week 4: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 25

**Scys** · 05-14-2013, 02:56 AM

Yes everyday, i normally dont even post and just read the forums but this was pretty concerning =\

**songdog** · 05-14-2013, 03:56 AM

I agree this cycle is a train wreck.Clearly your friend dont know wat he is doing.But this happens a lot bro.Follow the advice and stop.Good luck bro.

**fox76** · 05-14-2013, 04:07 AM

TNX marcus300, Scys and songdog

Someone wrote me:

PLease do not run nolva, it cannot be used with deca unless u want bitch tits..

This is true?

Week 1: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 100 ED
Week 2: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 50 ED
Week 3: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 50 ED
Week 4: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 25 ED

**The Titan99** · 05-14-2013, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by fox76

TNX marcus300, Scys and songdog

Someone wrote me:

This is true?

Week 1: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 100 ED
Week 2: Novadex 40mg/ED - clomid 50 ED
Week 3: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 50 ED
Week 4: Novadex 20mg/ED - clomid 25 ED

No, it's fvcking ignorant teenage BS. Right up there with AAS will make your dick shrink.

**fox76** · 05-14-2013, 04:39 AM

TNX Titan99

**Juced_porkchop** · 05-21-2013, 07:49 AM

keep it simple:

3-4months: test 500mg ew
AI from day 1 to start of PCT
PCT i rec a combo if clomid tamox

DONE.
and if you do use deca I never use more then 400-500mg ew (atleast for me, i use only 300-400).... save for second cycle and try it at 300mg deca with 500mg test first... but not on this cycle.

just keep on researching till you understand all these compounds.