First timer.

[jimmer1980]

Currently on nothing, Looking to try for the first time ever
20MG DIANABOL plan on using 1 pill daily
Also
Trenbolone 150mg/ml is it ok to use 1 ML daily?
TEST 400 10ml 400 and 1 ML daily?

No clue on which to start first OR even if this is a good mix
i'm 33 5'6 212lbs

Sinc
Trying to get as large as a house

[Scottyb13]

At 5'6 212 what is your bf %?

[Scottyb13]

And read up on this


Most Common Beginners Cycles - Look here..

[fit2bOld]

Your dosage is wrong bro and tren for a first time nooooooooo.

Start reading cause this will screw you up quick!!!

[MartyMcFly]

Currently on nothing, Looking to try for the first time ever
20MG DIANABOL plan on using 1 pill daily
Also
Trenbolone 150mg/ml is it ok to use 1 ML daily?
TEST 400 10ml 400 and 1 ML daily?

No clue on which to start first OR even if this is a good mix
i'm 33 5'6 212lbs

Sinc
Trying to get as large as a house

Almost 3 grams of test and over a gram of tren a week!?! Good thing you kept the Dbol low

[D2'd]

Do a little research brother.

[Gaspaco]

And read up on this

Most Common Beginners Cycles - Look here..

^^^ everything you need for first couple cycles.

[MickeyKnox]

At 5'6 212 what is your bf %?

Use this template as a guide to help determine BF%.

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[jimmer1980]

According to your template, Im 20% to 25%. I lift at least 2 hours a day 5 days a week and work at least 60 hours a week. aka hard labor not desk work.(not knocking desk work either)

The reason why I'm interested in getting help from the DBol , tren , and TEST, prior military was a Gym rat for quite a few years. had a buddy who did the Dbol/Tren and seen the gains he made. Not trying to take a lazy way out, however I need more helping breaking my plateau's, especially with my hectic life.

I'm very thankful for the responses I have gotten so far because as someone extremely new to the scene I now have alot of research to do with these forums, and so far helpful responses that are guiding me in the right direction.

[Doom44]

According to your template, Im 20% to 25%. I lift at least 2 hours a day 5 days a week and work at least 60 hours a week. aka hard labor not desk work.(not knocking desk work either)

The reason why I'm interested in getting help from the DBol , tren , and TEST, prior military was a Gym rat for quite a few years. had a buddy who did the Dbol/Tren and seen the gains he made. Not trying to take a lazy way out, however I need more helping breaking my plateau's, especially with my hectic life.

I'm very thankful for the responses I have gotten so far because as someone extremely new to the scene I now have alot of research to do with these forums, and so far helpful responses that are guiding me in the right direction.

For your case I will say proper diet is more then enough

[MickeyKnox]

I would not begin this cycle until you are at least around 15% BF or less. This is very important.

I recommend you adjust your diet and reduce your Body Fat to around 15% before you begin your cycle. This will also reduce your likelihood of experiencing unwanted sides attributed to high E2 levels like, Erectile Dysfunction (ED), Acne, Raised Blood Pressure, Increased Heart Rate, Bloating, Cardio vascular Issues, Mood swings, changes to your Cholesterol Factors (HDL-C, LDL-C, TG, TC)...ect.

Excess fatty tissue is a huge proponent of Estrogen. "Adipose tissue can contribute significantly to the circulating pool of estrogens." You want your BF to be as low as possible before you begin your proposed cycle - very important! Read this clinical study…Estrogen production and action. [J Am Acad Dermatol. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

And then head over to the Nutritional Forums and the Specialists in there will assist you in developing a solid diet that will reflect your intended goals and slim you down to a more suitable and safe BF%. Remember, your gains and body composition begin in the kitchen, not the needle.

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