4 week cycle

**topgun** · 12-06-2001, 03:36 PM

If the natural testosterone production shuts down in average after 30 DAYS. Wouldn't 4 week cycle be optimal, thus no clomid would be needed, at least not a long therapy? Naturally, it should be a fast acting drug like prop, so it doesn't stay in the system after few days.
I stopped gaining last time after 4 or 5 weeks of my cycle, so i started to think about this. After 4 weeks 2 weeks off and then juice(fast acting) again for 4 weeks?

**jersey juice** · 12-06-2001, 03:43 PM

Hmmmmm, I also have thought about hitting 100mg of prop ed for 4-6 weeks along with fina & seeing what kind of results I'd get. I'm thinking less sides and your body would bounce back quicker. Plus you could hit a few more cycles a year. I'm very interested in what the big dogs gotta say about this. Bump it a for a bro!!

**nautica** · 12-06-2001, 03:43 PM

No.

Your own production shuts down after 2 weeks. The short cycle theory will only work with 2 week cycles. If you go longer than 2 weeks you should go ahead and do a full 8 week cycle.

The theory suggest 2 weeks on and 3 weeks off.

**big_guy** · 12-06-2001, 04:55 PM

would u still have to use clomid though?... even if u stopped after 2 weeks?...

**topgun** · 12-06-2001, 05:57 PM

Nautica, has the 2 on 3 off worked for you?

The Iron Game · 12-06-2001, 06:06 PM

Depending on doses and aas used, disruption or shut off of bodys own testosterone will vary from individual to individual. It can happen a lot quicker than 2 weeks and can take a lot longer.

4 weeks with any esterified steroid will defintely require clomid for post cycle unless you have taken steroids with minimal influence on the hpt axis and taken steroids with a very short half life and taken in doses of all at once rather than spread out.

Forget short cycles 6-10 weeks is a good length depending on what you are using.

**topgun** · 12-06-2001, 06:12 PM

One of the main reasons why i thought of it is that after 4 weeks i rarely gain anymore(i make the 25-30 pounds in 4 weeks). But i guess i can retain the gains better if i let my body get accustomed to the new weight by prolonging the cycle.

**nautica** · 12-06-2001, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by topgun
Nautica, has the 2 on 3 off worked for you?

Right now for certain reasons I am clean. But When I go back I am going to give it a try. It sounds good in theory, But I am still not 100% convinced.