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    Average testosterone blood levels during cycle?

    What should the total testosterone be during cycle. Lets say after 8 weeks of 500 mg test e? I searched this and got some mixed answers.what was your total test level during cycle?

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    3,000-4,000 ng/dl for most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    3,000-4,000 ng/dl for most.
    Agree with this

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    Agree also

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    So if it is 2000 ng/dl after 8 weeks of 500 mg. Does that mean the gear is underdosed and should the dosage be increased?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supernatural28 View Post
    So if it is 2000 ng/dl after 8 weeks of 500 mg. Does that mean the gear is underdosed and should the dosage be increased?
    Most likely.

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    Absolutely

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    yes, that is definitely underdosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    3,000-4,000 ng/dl for most.
    So what would the FREE TEST be please ????

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    if the halftime is aprox 10 days and you are injecting 500mgm the equation will look like this.

    500 = mg test
    0.7= aprox halftime EW
    ^8! = weeks

    (500*0.7^8)+(500*0.7^7)+(500*0.7^6)+(500*0.7^5)+(5 00*0.7^4)+(500*0.7^3)+(500*0.7^2)+(500*0.7^1)≈1.01 0g at the end of week 8

    correct me if im wrong
    Last edited by 0kriz; 11-18-2013 at 08:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0kriz View Post
    if the halftime is aprox 10 days and you are injecting 500mgm the equation will look like this.

    500 = mg test
    0.7= aprox halftime EW
    ^8! = weeks

    (500*0.7^8)+(500*0.7^7)+(500*0.7^6)+(500*0.7^5)+(5 00*0.7^4)+(500*0.7^3)+(500*0.7^2)+(500*0.7^1)≈1.01 0g at the end of week 8

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    That's a flawed equation for determining how much testosterone is in his body, but it does not translate to a blood test reading in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athletic.guy
    So what would the FREE TEST be please ????
    3-4% is a median. If your total is 3500, you can expect free to be around 100-150. Depends on your body

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
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    That's a flawed equation for determining how much testosterone is in his body, but it does not translate to a blood test reading in any way.
    how is it flawed ?

    500mg times 70%,7 days is 70% of 10 days which is aprox the half time of Test E ^ in number of weeks to determin how much test is left of the given shot at week 8. multiply every shot with an in calculated halftime should be right? if not i would like the se the real formula.
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    One of the flaws is that it takes 24 to 36 hrs for tes to peak then it starts it's flow ride down the half life scale. The formula is a graft from baseline to peak to the half life line plus the addition of the next shot overlapping the first and so on and on. First you have to have baseline blood work then peak cycle bloodwork. If you want to use pretend numbers( like you did) then figure base st 0 peak at 100 and half life at 50 and it will show you the hourly descend. Without bloods you can't tell the real numbers but it will give you the proper percentages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime View Post
    One of the flaws is that it takes 24 to 36 hrs for tes to peak then it starts it's flow ride down the half life scale. The formula is a graft from baseline to peak to the half life line plus the addition of the next shot overlapping the first and so on and on. First you have to have baseline blood work then peak cycle bloodwork. If you want to use pretend numbers( like you did) then figure base st 0 peak at 100 and half life at 50 and it will show you the hourly descend. Without bloods you can't tell the real numbers but it will give you the proper percentages.
    overlapping was in the formula. but thanks for the rest of the correction. looks like i learned something new today to.

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    You know it man plus remember mg/ml is converted into ng/dl and conversion rate is alittle different from person to person although at 500 mg wkly after saturation not by much. Really to get your own numbers it takes several successful cycles with properly timed blood work with all other factors very close to the same ( diet, training, rest, stress levels) as all these can effect total available for bio use tes. Hey but your formula shows they you are thinking and studying and learning about what you are doing! Very good ! That's how we all learn and learning is a life long journey.

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