Cycle after removing tumor

**packing09** · 05-18-2013, 06:59 AM

I'm 22 years old, and I know a lot of you will tell me to wait, but the fact is that that my own production of testosterone still is at the bottom (I got 11 and normal range is 9-35, European measurments) after 3 years of normal training. I dont even get the natural pump when i work out.

From age 16-18 I've ran 3 cycles turanabol , sustanon , and test enanthate 500mg/week for 10 weeks.
My only pct was like 10 months after my last cycle (ignorant)
This pct of hCG ,Clomid and Nolvadex helped me to normal range, but soon after my levels started to decrease.
It feel like a waste to work out with test levels like that. My testicles is half the size they were before my first cycle, and now I'm 22!

I was thinking about running Turanabol or Dianabol as oral steroid, and EQ for IM injections.
EQ mainly becouse of the collagen synthesis, I've had problems with my tendons before, and need to strenghten them. The question is Turanabol or Dianabol .

Because I removed a BIG tumor on my left side, my hip and thigh is not and option to make an IM injection.
I will therefore inject the EQ in my right hip.

I dont care about TRT since my levels already are screwed, but I dont want anything that makes the heart grow and other dangerous stuff.

My main reason for this cycle is to improve my muscles, strenght is not that important anymore.
I don't looking for a big change, just want to improve my muscular size because I lost all I gained after that tumor that made med unable to walk for many weeks and because of my low test.

Stats:
6 ft
167 lbs
22 years
Been training since 15 years old but with some longer time with no training.

Thanks for answer!

**Granovich** · 05-18-2013, 08:26 AM

Cycling at 16 was horrible
Ur proposed cycle at ur age now is even worst....
I dont even know where to start
I workedout for 2 years at low test cuz i did cycle early and ****ed my self up
But i never heard of a person want to do more cycle while his own production of testosterone is already low
This will end u and u will have to start TRT if u can find a doctor who gives it to 22 years old
I would say lay off steroids as it is man
U already removed a tumor
Why risk ur life and future
Just let ur body rest and workout naturally and eat good

**packing09** · 05-18-2013, 09:34 AM

I have been training naturally for 3 years now.
How long do you mean I should wait for my test to recover even more?
The fact is that over these 3 years my test have recovered, but I'm still at the very bottom of the "normal range" and has been there for a long time. I don't see any way even more waiting would help, 3 years is quite a long time.

I eat good, has worked out naturally for 3 years now og and get a lot of rest.
I dont get the normal training-pump due to low test, libido is bad and my muscle restitution is even worse.
I worked out tricep on Monday and I cant even deadlift on Thursday because it's still sore.

Actually I rather be on TRT and have a normal progression in training and a normal sexlife, rather than train with no progression and low libido.

So back to the question. Turanabol or Dianabol as oral? TRT is not an issue.

**Granovich** · 05-18-2013, 11:59 AM

Do not do cycle
Go to a doctor and get on trt
Stay on it for few months like 6 months or so cuz usually takes a while to get right dose of testosterone , AI, and HCG
You will need multiple blood works and doctor monitor for a while and start gaining on it before any AAS cycles
You are 165 lbs at 6"
U r super slim man!!!

**BBJT200** · 05-18-2013, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by packing09

I have been training naturally for 3 years now.
How long do you mean I should wait for my test to recover even more?
The fact is that over these 3 years my test have recovered, but I'm still at the very bottom of the "normal range" and has been there for a long time. I don't see any way even more waiting would help, 3 years is quite a long time.

I eat good, has worked out naturally for 3 years now og and get a lot of rest.
I dont get the normal training-pump due to low test, libido is bad and my muscle restitution is even worse.
I worked out tricep on Monday and I cant even deadlift on Thursday because it's still sore.

Actually I rather be on TRT and have a normal progression in training and a normal sexlife, rather than train with no progression and low libido.

So back to the question. Turanabol or Dianabol as oral? TRT is not an issue.

get your trt sorted out, THEN cycle if you choose to.

**packing09** · 05-18-2013, 01:09 PM

Here in Scandinavia TRT is very hard to get from doctors.
My testlevels are 11 and normal is 9-35. Age is not an option in this values, so I guess i have the same values as a 60 years old.

Even though how messed up it sounds I want my test to shutdown even more so my doctor will prescribe me for a TRT program.

And i thought TRT was testogel that you have to take everyday for the rest of your life? I've read that it's a supplement of testosterone you take to get normal testosterone values, but does it help boosting my own testosteron production? Why is there always hcg ,nolvadex and clomid that get mentioned?